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JB4 Logging, stacking and Map 6 Discussion

shovelhd

Autocross Champion
Location
Western MA
Heat is good for spicy food and women. Not so good for turbo cars.

Do you have a Map 3 log by chance?

I'll run one. It's been a while. With temps here all over the place (it was 34 degrees yesterday morning, and it's going to touch 80 today), I don't want to be in a situation where I'm chasing Map 6 every week.

I dialed things back a bit this morning and logged it. Temps were cooler than the last log. I see a little bit of pull in ign_4 but trims under 40 across the band. The car feels neutered a bit. Smoother but not as much fun.

https://datazap.me/u/shovelhd/log-1590147553?log=0&data=1-4-11-14
 

shortyb

Autocross Newbie
Location
Upstate SC
Car(s)
Felon Taxi,Dad Wagon
shovelhd- That one is much better due to lower temps and not making so much extra boost heat. Its amazing what just even .5 psi change in boost can make when these things are on the edge with JB4.

And if you don't want to be chasing Map 6 all the time, Map 3 is as close to a set and forget as you will find. Add some E and watch out ;).
 

mk7_bk

Autocross Champion

shortyb

Autocross Newbie
Location
Upstate SC
Car(s)
Felon Taxi,Dad Wagon

shovelhd

Autocross Champion
Location
Western MA
shovelhd- That one is much better due to lower temps and not making so much extra boost heat. Its amazing what just even .5 psi change in boost can make when these things are on the edge with JB4.

And if you don't want to be chasing Map 6 all the time, Map 3 is as close to a set and forget as you will find. Add some E and watch out ;).

Thank you for your input.

What about Map 4? Is Map 3 going to be good enough for all summer long?
 

eski.knows

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Colorado Springs, CO
Car(s)
15 GTI S 4DR 6MT
Could you report what George says about this as well? Thanks in advance. To me this looks like the limit at your conditions but not too much. No headroom for heat etc but viable. I'm still learning here so as much a question as anything else. I have a 1.8 which runs more timing so it may not relate across platforms.
He told me that the log looks fine to him that to change the FOL to 55 and Boost Safety to 26 and provide him with more logs.
Still pulling timing after 5K. 7psi is too much right now. I even believe Map 3 is a bit much. Would like to see a Map 2 log or two. And if your still running ethanol (which I hope you are) at least take FOL up if you don't do anything else.
I adjusted the FOL to 55 and Boost safety to 26 as per George’s suggestion. I need to provide him with more logs. My buttdyno says the car runs better now. LOL but ill get more logs and share w u. I am running an e85 mix about 3.5 gallons mixed into a full tank of 91 octane(we r at 6k elevation) so i should def be at e30 levels. Ill log u a back to back 3rd gear pull today of both my map 6 with the corrected settings that George sent me(fol 55 and boost safety 26) and the map 2 3rd gear pull logs its ab 81f today so should still be hot enough to show any danger stuff
 

shortyb

Autocross Newbie
Location
Upstate SC
Car(s)
Felon Taxi,Dad Wagon
He told me that the log looks fine to him that to change the FOL to 55 and Boost Safety to 26 and provide him with more logs.

I adjusted the FOL to 55 and Boost safety to 26 as per George’s suggestion. I need to provide him with more logs. My buttdyno says the car runs better now. LOL but ill get more logs and share w u. I am running an e85 mix about 3.5 gallons mixed into a full tank of 91 octane(we r at 6k elevation) so i should def be at e30 levels. Ill log u a back to back 3rd gear pull today of both my map 6 with the corrected settings that George sent me(fol 55 and boost safety 26) and the map 2 3rd gear pull logs its ab 81f today so should still be hot enough to show any danger stuff

George suggested? Hmm, *cough* post 10,066 *cough*cough* 😁.
 
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shortyb

Autocross Newbie
Location
Upstate SC
Car(s)
Felon Taxi,Dad Wagon
Thank you for your input.

What about Map 4? Is Map 3 going to be good enough for all summer long?

I believe Map 4 is same peak boost add as 3 is (+6 psi) but taper is tailored more for the newer 7-spd DSG boxes. Refresh memory of an old man, do you have an intercooler upgrade? If so, E30 and Map 3 all day long.
 

mk7_phil

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
Annapolis, MD.
Car(s)
MK7.5 GTI
can someone take a look at this log for me? my first time trying a E20 mix. 2.5 gallons of e85 topped off with 93oct. Boost is falling flat on its face, and the car looses power in high revs. Coming off the pedal and back on restores boost back to normal. JB4 isnt throwing me into a security map. Not getting any CEL or anything. FOL is set to 60. boost safety 26 map is additive with values listed below. Could someone explain to me whats going on

https://datazap.me/u/mk7phil/e85-mix?log=0&data=1-4-5-9-11&mark=81

1500: 0
2000: 2
2500: 3
3000: 3
3500: 3.5
4000: 5.5
4500: 6.5
5000: 7.5
5500: 7.0
6000: 7.0
6500: 6.0
7000: 6.0
 

Andrewbens

Go Kart Champion
Location
Modesto
Car(s)
2019 GTi S 6 Speed
can someone take a look at this log for me? my first time trying a E20 mix. 2.5 gallons of e85 topped off with 93oct. Boost is falling flat on its face, and the car looses power in high revs. Coming off the pedal and back on restores boost back to normal. JB4 isnt throwing me into a security map. Not getting any CEL or anything. FOL is set to 60. boost safety 26 map is additive with values listed below. Could someone explain to me whats going on

https://datazap.me/u/mk7phil/e85-mix?log=0&data=1-4-5-9-11&mark=81

1500: 0
2000: 2
2500: 3
3000: 3
3500: 3.5
4000: 5.5
4500: 6.5
5000: 7.5
5500: 7.0
6000: 7.0
6500: 6.0
7000: 6.0

To make e30 you really need about 3.5 gallons of e85

what mods do you have on the car?
 

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