It's coming! Cobb VW

[Stage2Sasquatch]

If you think that's a ton of information that's great...I disagree...disagreement isn't trolling.

So you think this is the best post to intelligently voice your disagreement: "OMG...I've only heard about this 10q9823098412093840980923485 times...please...tell me more of the no information that is out there." It was a troll post intended to start an argument online. It's over now, let it go.

 

[GTIJeff]

No...it wasn't a troll post and it wasn't meant to start an argument online...it was sarcastic, most certainly...but if you look at my post history I'm not one for trolling.

 

[Born_Into_This]

Please compare cobb against Livernois on the ford platform.

Both are OTS tunes

Honestly I don't know much about the Ford platform, but seem to remember reading good things about Livernois' Mustang tune. Does the ECU compare to the SIMOS that VW group uses?

Cobb has stated they are already making the same or better power than comparable APR tunes:

"I don’t believe we’ve released official power numbers quite yet. From what I have seen, we are right on par or slightly above a comparable APR tune.
Marshall@COBB"

 

[Stage2Sasquatch]

Honestly I don't know much about the Ford platform, but seem to remember reading good things about Livernois' Mustang tune. Does the ECU compare to the SIMOS that VW group uses?

Cobb has stated they are already making the same or better power than comparable APR tunes:

"I don’t believe we’ve released official power numbers quite yet. From what I have seen, we are right on par or slightly above a comparable APR tune.
Marshall@COBB"

As far as I know the Ecoboost mustang uses a Bosch ECU that should be pretty similar to ours.

 

[dlau9]

Honestly I don't know much about the Ford platform, but seem to remember reading good things about Livernois' Mustang tune. Does the ECU compare to the SIMOS that VW group uses?

Cobb has stated they are already making the same or better power than comparable APR tunes:

"I don’t believe we’ve released official power numbers quite yet. From what I have seen, we are right on par or slightly above a comparable APR tune.
Marshall@COBB"

Livernois is the current king of the OTS tunes for ford and GM. The American ECUS are amazing easy to tune for. Ours are 10x more difficult to handle. That's why I would be hesitant with cobb being so New. The amount of tables available to tune and tinker with are pretty intense from my understand. Livernois. Claims they handle the most tables for ford. And cobb ots is a joke in the ford community. Similiar to SCT X4.

 

[AtlantaDad]

"I don’t believe we’ve released official power numbers quite yet. From what I have seen, we are right on par or slightly above a comparable APR tune.
Marshall@COBB"

That's for the mk6. From what I've read, our mk7 cars have more potential for gains via tuning, so we'll have to wait and see what Cobb comes out with. The biggest takeaways for me are what others have already said:

- increased competition = win for consumers
- ability to flash from home and switch on the fly
- ability to get custom tune for your specific car/mods
- gauges, logs, reading codes, etc.
- retains some resale value

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[dlau9]

I am very eager to see how apr, uni and them respond. I'm happy that cobb is coming. Protunes and etunes are going to destroy the competition.

 

[Stage2Sasquatch]

I am very eager to see how apr, uni and them respond. I'm happy that cobb is coming. Protunes and etunes are going to destroy the competition.

It's kind of funny, Unitronic released Launch Control and APR kicked their MK6 Beta update into really high gear about half a week after the first Cobb announcement. Competition is great for the customer.

 

[dlau9]

It's kind of funny, Unitronic released Launch Control and APR kicked their MK6 Beta update into really high gear about half a week after the first Cobb announcement. Competition is great for the customer.

Absolutely, the tuner network cobb has is insane. The variety of ways to custom tune is amazing. I could easily see the cobb platform overtaking APR in a year or so if they don't respond with some insane deals and New features.

 

[805mk7gti]

Have u ever driven a cobb ots tuned vehicle before? Compare the ford platforms between cobb ots and Livernois ots.

Yup, ran all the way from stage 1, 1+, 2,2+, and e30 ots map on my 135 and wouldnt have called any of them weak. Was also extremely easy to make custom maps using ATR as well. So maybe the Ford Cobb maps are weak, but that doesn't mean they'll be the same for VW.

 

[dlau9]

Yup, ran all the way from stage 1, 1+, 2,2+, and e30 ots map on my 135 and wouldnt have called any of them weak. Was also extremely easy to make custom maps using ATR as well. So maybe the Ford Cobb maps are weak, but that doesn't mean they'll be the same for VW.

Did you have a comparison against anything else on the platform though? I've owned cobb OTS then cobb etuned, Livernois ots and STI cobb ots and STI etuned. and every time the OTS cobb ran far worse than any of the other tunes.

Maybe you're right and the platform matters. But from my experience, cobb OTS non-modified or customized run terrible and rich in many cases.

But let's wait and see I guess. Not smart on my part to just call them shit on a platform that is brand new to them. But still I would say, because in many cases in the subie world, the cobb ots are the ringland killers. Most Protunes or etunes don't have as much failures. Ex bren e-Tuned on the subie platform.

 

[0bLiViOuS]

I only like the Cobb option for the Protune. OTS tunes usially leave much to be desired. I've tuned all my cars myself on various platforms and I might start with a recommended tune, but each car is so different the flexibility is what makes it great.

 

[805mk7gti]

Did you have a comparison against anything else on the platform though? I've owned cobb OTS then cobb etuned, Livernois ots and STI cobb ots and STI etuned. and every time the OTS cobb ran far worse than any of the other tunes.

Maybe you're right and the platform matters. But from my experience, cobb OTS non-modified or customized run terrible and rich in many cases.

But let's wait and see I guess. Not smart on my part to just call them shit on a platform that is brand new to them. But still I would say, because in many cases in the subie world, the cobb ots are the ringland killers. Most Protunes or etunes don't have as much failures. Ex bren e-Tuned on the subie platform.

When I bought my AP the only other flash tune options were Giac and Dinan. Giac was pretty conservative in their maps from my recollection and Dinan was just overpriced garbage. Now MHD is the best flash tune available when it comes to the N54.

 

[Obsrvr]

Apologies for bringing this somewhat tired horse out of the barn and flogging him again, but if a tuner wanted to OWN the MK7 market, what they'd do is figure out how to make software for mobile devices or their own phone-like device that would allow us to plug in and have near full control of the ecu. This mythical device could hijack and then feedback to the engine whatever we want it to. Now the REAL coup de gras is when we unplug, its just like unplugging a JB1- the ecu is right back to stock, with no tdi flags, no residual evidence at all.

Unfortunately this is likey impossible otherwise it would have been done by now.
I assume the obd port or plugs (like the JB1 uses) do not allow this amount of control or feedback ability. Ok, so I like to dream the impossible. Sue me.
Move along, nothing to see here. As you were.

 

[AtlantaDad]

Apologies for bringing this somewhat tired horse out of the barn and flogging him again, but if a tuner wanted to OWN the MK7 market, what they'd do is figure out how to make software for mobile devices or their own phone-like device that would allow us to plug in and have near full control of the ecu. This mythical device could hijack and then feedback to the engine whatever we want it to. Now the REAL coup de gras is when we unplug, its just like unplugging a JB1- the ecu is right back to stock, with no tdi flags, no residual evidence at all.

Unfortunately this is likey impossible otherwise it would have been done by now.
I assume the obd port or plugs (like the JB1 uses) do not allow this amount of control or feedback ability. Ok, so I like to dream the impossible. Sue me.
Move along, nothing to see here. As you were.

Sounds like you need an R2 unit.

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