Intercooler performance

0bLiViOuS · Jan 28, 2016

Hi Guys,

I wanted to start a thread with user's logs on actual real world numbers for intercooler performance. This started on another thread and to avoid going off topic on that, decided to start a new thread. I'll start and hopefully gn4r can add his. For each post, please include:

Ambient temperature
Model of intercooler
Mods that might affect temps (tune, meth, etc)
What gear (and run if applicable)
Log with IATs

63*F (17*C)
Stock intercooler
Bone stock '16 GTI PP
4th gear pull - 3rd run (ran out of room so somewhat limited)

0bLiViOuS · Feb 5, 2016

I'm still hoping to get some intercooler logs from different users. Below is a nice graph of 4 pulls I did in. Below are the specs of the pulls and graph:

72*F (22*C)
Stock intercooler
Bone stock '16 GTI PP
4th gear pull on first run and 3rd for all others
**Note the runs were done as quickly as I could do on streets. Intercooler actually had more heat soak with ~60 seconds between pulls

0bLiViOuS · Feb 5, 2016

I ordered my JB1 already so I'm hoping to have before and after logs on what the increased boost does to IATs. I'd love to see people with aftermarket intercoolers chime in so we can see what's working in the real world.

gn4rwhals · Feb 6, 2016

JB1 +5.2psi WOT 4th Gear 3k to ~Redline - About 23C that day.

0bLiViOuS · Feb 6, 2016

Thanks gn4r. I knew you had yours floating around

are you on the stock intercooler still?

0bLiViOuS · Feb 6, 2016

Never mind, I remembered you run a twincooler. I'd have expected your temps to be lower but we'll see what JB1 at 4.8 does for factory intercooler temps. I know it'll jump, but it'll be nice to see how high with a before and after.

BravoMike · Jul 4, 2016

Sorry I missed this thread! It was started in January so maybe that's why there weren't too many people contributing? Now that the summer heat is here (somewhat in my area) I'll try and get a log of the stock intercooler performance.

0bLiViOuS · Jul 4, 2016

Sounds good. I'll need to get a new log now that I have my JB1 as well. I think the stocker is good until you start pushing up the boost so I'd be curious the performance now.. especially with is being about 10°F hotter here. I'll try to get a new one later this week when I'm hoping to finish my temp logging for DP wrapping.

greggles · Jul 5, 2016

Finally getting some awesome Data! Different cars, mainly looking at the curve of the IAT's vs engine speed. (To see if the intercooler is maintaining temps, or spiking up)

IS20 Equipped cars (GTI)

Stock GTI Intercooler

http://www.datazap.me/u/gti7871/log-1491785260?log=1&data=8-10
MAP Stage 1 93oct. Only mod is k&n drop in, snow guard removal and ECS turbo inlet pipe

Stock IC in Traffic

http://www.datazap.me/u/crudulous/gti-s-gti-ic-dsg-apr-stage-1-lo-apr-tcu-0?log=0&data=1-2-3
http://www.datazap.me/u/crudulous/afternoon-w-ac-100-f-temps-0?log=0&data=1-2-3-5&mark=1418
This is a GTI S, Non PP, DSG, APR Stage 1 LO 91, APR TCU

Stock R Intercooler

http://www.datazap.me/u/jcruz/log-1487885438?log=0&data=4-10
Stage 2 Cobb Protune by BrenTuning
Unitronic DP, Injen Evo intake, CTS turbo inlet pipe, R intercooler, BBS SSR wheels.

Forge Twincooler

http://www.datazap.me/u/hexxum001/log-1491806479?log=0&data=9-11
Cobb AP - MAP Stage 2 - CTS Turbo Intake, Inlet Pipe, Turbo Muffler Delete & CBE - Emmanuele Design Springs & Rear Sway Bar - Neuspeed Catted Downpipe

http://www.datazap.me/u/hexxum001/log-1491873866?log=0&data=1-6-7-12-14-16-20-21-22-23&zoom=0-88
Cobb AP - MAP Stage 2 - CTS Turbo Intake, Inlet Pipe, Turbo Muffler Delete & CBE - Emmanuele Design Springs & Rear Sway Bar - Neuspeed Catted Downpipe - Forge Twintercooler - Boomba Racing DV Adapter & Shift Knob - Spulen Spacers - NGK RS7 plugs - DeAutoLED - Ziza - Build date 05/2016

Neuspeed IS38 FMIC

http://datazap.me/u/siupo128/log-1494805518?log=0&data=10-12&solo=37
IE Intake, CTS catted downpipe, Neuspeed IS38 FMIC., Freaktune A, IS20

CTS FMIC

http://www.datazap.me/u/jcruz/log-1491250495?log=0&data=4-10
Stage 2 Cobb Protune by BrenTuning
Unitronic DP, Injen Evo intake, CTS turbo inlet pipe, CTS FMIC, BBS SSR wheels.

http://www.datazap.me/u/venumous/freektune-base-tune?log=0&data=10-12
2016 GTI DSG - FreekTune, CAI, CTS DP, CTS FMIC, CTS Dogbone, IKH24 plugs

Rev9 Intercooler

http://datazap.me/u/yakboyslim/ic-comparison-109-f-ambient-map-2?log=2&data=1-3-4-5-6-11-18&solo=1
JB4, Rev9 DP,109F Ambient!

CTS Stock Location

http://www.datazap.me/u/dlau9/log-1494208828?log=0&data=6-11-13
Freektune Rev D.

http://www.datazap.me/u/dlau9/log-1497110354?log=0&data=6-11-13
Freektune

VWR Intercooler

http://www.datazap.me/u/wy2sl0/jb4-60-dp-ic-94oct-ambient-7c45f?log=0&data=1-6
JB4 MAP 6 6.0 Peak DP IC 94OCT AMBIENT 7*C/45*F.

http://datazap.me/u/wy2sl0/map-6-absolute-jb4?log=0&data=1-6
JB4, DP, Panel filter

http://datazap.me/u/defining/ed-stg-2-adj-93oct-27psi-70-degrees?log=0&data=1-4
2016 GTI, ED stg 2 adj file 93oct 27 psi [77F ambient, logs in C]

http://www.datazap.me/u/ineedmorepsi/freektune-revc?log=2&data=11-13
15 GTI S DSG: Cobb AccessPort | United Motorsport DSG Tune | Billy Boat Catback | Integrated Engineering Intake and FMIC | Forge DV | CTS Catted DP, Catch Can, Throttle Pipe, Turbo Inlet Pipe, DSG and Engine B-Cool Housings | Neuspeed Discharge Pipe | Neuspeed Turbo Muffler Delete

http://www.datazap.me/u/diggs24/log-1492310773?log=0&data=1-6
JB4/Map6, IE, Brisk Silvers, DSG, 100% stock intake and exhaust, E30-E40ish gas

http://datazap.me/u/drrck82/ic-testing?log=0&data=16-17-20&zoom=6005-8631
ED 1.5 Adjustable set to 93 Oct and 21 PSI with the IE intercooler.

APR Intercooler

http://datazap.me/u/fjames/log-1487806422?log=1&data=10-12&trim=8&tmin=4.00&tmax=4.50

IS38 Cars (R/Clubsport/S3/GTI IS38)

Stock R Intercooler (IS38)

http://datazap.me/u/nicram1978/15-kwietnia-2017?log=2&data=1-6&solo=4&zoom=47-132
Audi s3 with r600 intake, JB4

Neuspeed IS38 FMIC (on IS38 GTI)

http://datazap.me/u/greggles/is38-is38-fmic?log=0&data=0-7&zoom=0-98
Neuspeed ic, GIAC software, IS38 turbo, CTS DP, Magnaflow CBE, Forge intake. 93 octane.

http://datazap.me/u/rafycotto/adj-28psi-100octtiming-e50-mix-0?log=0&data=1-4&zoom=0-49
90F Ambient, / 2015 Golf .:R / ED Stage 2 / ED DSG TCU Tune / Injen Evo Intake
/ CTS Inlet Pipe / Neuspeed Turbo Discharged / Neuspeed Front IC / Spulen Throttle Pipe / USP DP Catless / 034 DogBone Insert / H&R Spring / 19' Nitto NT05 Tires /

Unitronic

https://datazap.me/u/wy2sl0/log-1503348855?log=0&data=1-4
80F Ambient, IS38 GTI, 6MT/CatDP/UniIC/SachsSRE/Fluidampr/Pump94, ED Maestro 11.9 - 122.5mph w/APR Intake

http://www.datazap.me/u/kornsined/may20mk7ris38jb4map6?log=0&data=1-6&trim=0&tmin=11.17&tmax=159.25
Golf R DSG, Unitronic intercooler, HPA DP, JB4 Map 6, 94 oct. 72F Ambient

Wagner

http://www.datazap.me/u/mk7gtl/eurodyne-is38-93-tune-121316-55f?log=0&data=1-2
|2016 GTI|S|PP|LP|DSG|
|IS38|Eurodyne|Wagner|Cooling Mist|CTS|APR| (pre cooling mist)

jrm · Jul 5, 2016

söndag 17 April 2016 13:11:41:01657-VCID:306A91526B252AA1DEF-8065 VCDS version: AER 14.10.2 Dataversion: 20150412
5G0 906 259 E ADVMB 2.0l R4 TFSI H13 0003
G218 F0 G294 F0 G400 F0 G000 F0 G000 F0 G000 F0 G000 F0 G000 F0 G000 F0 G000 F0 G000 F0 G000 F0
Marker TIDS- Grupp 218 - Fält 0 TIDS- Grupp 294 - Fält 0 TIDS- Grupp 400 - Fält 0
MÄRKE Motorvarvtal MÄRKE Insugningslufttemperatur MÄRKE Yttertemperatur
/min °C °C
0.59 2665 0.19 18 0.41 11
1.20 2696 0.80 17 1.00 11
1.80 2465 1.41 17 1.59 11
2.41 1960 2.00 16 2.20 11
3.00 4210 2.61 16 2.80 11
3.61 4093 3.20 16 3.41 11
4.20 4297 3.80 16 4.00 11
4.80 4495 4.41 17 4.59 11
5.41 4709 5.00 16 5.20 11
6.00 4912 5.59 15 5.80 11
6.61 5107 6.20 15 6.41 11
7.22 5297 6.82 14 7.03 11
7.95 5552 7.46 14 7.71 11
8.55 5772 8.16 14 8.35 11
9.21 5982 8.75 14 8.96 11
9.96 6222 9.45 14 9.71 11
10.59 6434 10.20 14 10.41 11
11.21 6630 10.78 14 10.99 11
11.91 6829 11.46 14 11.70 11
12.49 6195 12.09 14 12.29 11
13.20 5371 12.71 14 12.96 11
13.80 5440 13.41 15 13.59 11
14.46 5573 14.00 15 14.21 11
15.21 5673 14.71 15 14.95 11
15.85 5793 15.45 15 15.66 11
16.45 5887 16.05 15 16.25 11
17.05 5956 16.66 16 16.85 11
17.66 6048 17.25 16 17.45 11
18.25 6092 17.85 16 18.05 11
18.85 5952 18.45 16 18.66 11

HG Motorsport Intercooler= Hf-series
HG Motorsport Downpipe = Bull x
Jb1 Map6 peak 5,5
98 oktan
Gear 4 and 5 Wot
Outside temp 11 degreed c
IATs start 18 degreed c

travicon · Jan 13, 2017

Anyone out there have more experience/data to share?

0bLiViOuS · Jan 13, 2017

Man this is an old thread. I can probably add a bit based on logs people have sent me. Let me see if I can add a bit

travicon · Jan 13, 2017

Ok. Figured I'd resurrect some old threads than start a new one where someone would just tell me to "search".

themyst · Jan 13, 2017

the stock cooler isn't that bad really. It's probably excellent for stock boost pressures, and adequate for those tuned. Just a short observation.

0bLiViOuS · Jan 13, 2017

Ya at stock levels as seen by my graph, it's great, but even stage 1 it does start losing efficiency and stage 2 it's well beyond its capabilities. I've got some logs when I was JB1 which I'll add, then JB4, JB4 with IC, multiple ED tune logs, APR... I am know as a log hoarder hahaha

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