It's significantly faster than the GTI w/PP on track and right there with the Civic Type R. So I'd say it's a solid car so far. We'll see what the pricing is when it comes out.
Oh I'm sure it's quick and all that. But same thing can be said about the stinger... you're gonna pay how much for a Hyundai?
I'd much rather spend the same on something that won't feel like a bag of ass within 24 months.
...right up until the business managers, who are higher up in the organization than "those BMW guys," get hold of it.
Again, if you want to spend $60k (cdn) on a car, why the fuck would you even consider a Hyundai?
My wife bought an elentra back in 2012 (one step below the limited edition with leather/nav). The reviews were amazing, awards being won, blah blah blah. Car felt like it was falling apart after a year of ownership. In less than 15k kms the stuts were toast, the dash was rattling like crazy, doors didn't seal properly anymore, etc...
Everyone's experience will be different, sure. But consider that when the Japanese started selling cars in North America, the vehicles were terrible. They rusted out. The were not manufactured well. The fell apart. The Japanese learned, over time, things like how to rust-proof cars for our dismal climates, and developed some of the world's cutting-edge manufacturing techniques. It didn't happen overnight.
Absolutely. The differences between my mom's 1972 Toyota and my 1992 Civic Si were monumental.
But think this through. Hyundai has had since 1986 to hash this out--that's 32 years. But a few years ago, they couldn't make a top of the line Kia to any sort of standards such that it would last 20K miles/2 years.
That Hyundai had the opportunity is not in question. That they squandered the opportunity to do what Honda did back in the 90s--that's what's in play here.
If they can't figure it out in 25-32 years, then when? How long?
In the meantime, just because it says "hot hatch, competes with GTI" on it is meaningless. GTI is more than a hot hatch. It's a storied brand with a long history. Sure, if all you want is to borrow the Elantra N for a weekend drive and hoon it around, fine. But do you want to buy it, knowing how Hyundai has failed to develop like Honda did over a similar time period?
Meh. I know this is a Euro car forum and most of us that drive VW are keen on staying in the Euro market. However:
I don't see anything wrong with Hyundai or anything Japanese/Chinese/Korean at all. Honda, Hyundai, Toyota are all pretty great cars. Very reliable (some would argue more reliable and less expensive to maintain than our euros).
My brother (still in school) is driving a hand-me-down 2008 Hyundai Sonata nearing 100k miles and has had zero issues throughout its life.
Girlfriend has a 14 year old 100k+ Camry with the same reliability. She'll likely be getting a Hyundai Tuscon or Sante Fe Sport in the coming months. I'd like her to be in a Q3/Q5 but her nor I really want to take on that expense.