Didn’t think that was a personal attack, you alluded to your mental illness. I had assumed you were just an idiot. My apologies.
I was wrong, a dealer can detect an ECU tune easily. They can even detect them if a car was flashed back to stock.
This thread was actually an interesting window into the participants’ views on ethics and the law. It’s probably one of the more interesting threads here, except for the silly and largely irrelevant “gotcha” regarding the difficulty of detecting a previous tune.
The most disturbing post was the one advocating for ethical behavior only when it might ultimately lead to personal gain, while generally discouraging it otherwise as a competitive disadvantage.
Because I don't want you to make the same stupid statement in the future about ecu tunes being hard to find. Here's how hard it is for a VW dealer to find a tune. Happy trails, partner.
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/inde...-ecu-for-routine-service.343460/#post-7024786
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/i-got-td1d.367071/
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/cobb-tune.369600/
This thread was actually an interesting window into the participants’ views on ethics and the law. It’s probably one of the more interesting threads here, except for the silly and largely irrelevant “gotcha” regarding the difficulty of detecting a previous tune.
The most disturbing post was the one advocating for ethical behavior only when it might ultimately lead to personal gain, while generally discouraging it otherwise as a competitive disadvantage.
It wasn't entirely irrelevant. The basis for part of his argument about what is kosher to not tell a dealer (worn brakes etc) centered around them being expected and inspectable. A tune is clearly inspectable and who knows how he defines "expected" but the fact that vw mandates scans prior to warranty work shows that they expect to find them otherwise it wouldn't be mandated. So if a tune is inspectable and expected, not disclosing it isn't a problem according to Corprin Esq.
All three of the links you posted do show that the dealer knows how many times your ECU has been flashed. But you won't get TD1'd unless you try to get warranty work done for powertrain related issues. It still does not absolve you of fraud. The dealer doesn't need to check the flash counter except for powertrain warranty problems. My dealer knows I'm tuned several times and has not denied warranty repairs for non powertrain problems.
You should refrain from providing legal advice online but maybe google duty to disclose and search on here for how easy it is for dealers to find ecu tunes. The more you know.
Trying to argue that YOU intentionally traded a car that YOU modified to the point of devaluing the car due to TD1 concerns/warranty complications AND your argument is that the dealer should have done THEIR due diligence and found YOUR failure to disclose.
There was no failure to disclose because there was no duty to disclose.
Trying to argue that YOU intentionally traded a car that YOU drove to the point the tires were bald and needed to be replaced, devaluing the car due to the cost and labor of replacement parts AND your argument is that the dealer should have done THEIR due diligence and found YOUR failure to disclose.
I'm sure you'll now argue there is a duty to disclose bald tires to a car dealership or is this an area where they should do their due diligence?
We aren't going to see eye to eye on on this so agree to disagree.
On here are numerous stories of people tuning leased cars and turning them back in with 0 issues.
Nice to discuss morality and ethics and such, but let's get real here. Someone actually getting sued over this isn't ever going to happen.