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krs

Autocross Champion
Location
Las Vegas, NV
Car(s)
MKVIIS R

I’m over driving the car here, and got flustered when my fingers hit the extended paddle shifters (and wiper stalk) with resulting unexpected upshift. I lost all focus trying to downshift while my arms were all crossed up, and quit looking ahead resulting in being late and hitting the cone. I was able to regain some composure and did ok for the rest of the run, but stopped as I mistakenly thought a cone was misplaced.

Still need to work on my slaloms.
Looks like you need to drive more really, your lines were off, maybe try not to drive so fast. That's helped me the most at least.

If you turn the stability control off on your camera you'll get a better video to review.
 

xXDavidCXx

Autocross Champion
Location
AZ
Car(s)
2017 GTI SE DSG
Looks like you need to drive more really, your lines were off, maybe try not to drive so fast. That's helped me the most at least.

If you turn the stability control off on your camera you'll get a better video to review.
Can't really tell where the car's sides are with the video being so close to the front of the car.

Also, Z-max is sealed asphalt so it's not as sticky. Driving slower can yield better times.
 

GoatAutomotive

Autocross Champion
Location
Georgetown, TX
Car(s)
2017 VW GTI SE, DSG
I ordered the H&R 70340 front sway bar from ECS Tuning for the Alltrack, but received one that looked the same but had different H&R part number on it. I emailed them these photos, and they replied it's the correct bar. I'm waiting for some Whiteline stamped steel control arms with solid bushings before installation.
You will LOVE the white line LCA’s… 🙌 😎

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tigeo

Autocross Champion
I ordered the H&R 70340 front sway bar from ECS Tuning for the Alltrack, but received one that looked the same but had different H&R part number on it. I emailed them these photos, and they replied it's the correct bar. I'm waiting for some Whiteline stamped steel control arms with solid bushings before installation.
That looks correct. Should be the part no. for the R.
 

GoatAutomotive

Autocross Champion
Location
Georgetown, TX
Car(s)
2017 VW GTI SE, DSG
the rear bushings on mine were dead within less than 200 miles. went powerflex and didn't look back.
On your Whiteline LCAs? Or the stockers?
 

tigeo

Autocross Champion
Superpro LCAs have been fantastic for me.
 

GoatAutomotive

Autocross Champion
Location
Georgetown, TX
Car(s)
2017 VW GTI SE, DSG
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meb58

New member
Location
Wappingers Falls, NY
Car(s)
2015 MK7 GTi
...not entirely sold on the FSB yet...I previously installed the 034 RSB (25.4) set on the softer position. Had an H&R FSB installed while having the Wavetrac LSD installed and along with the heavy - for street - front spring rates 619 in lb/70nm. The front end does wash out somewhat abruptly through tight radius turns....the FSB is set to the softer position and I will change the RSB position to the stiffer location. The roads are also colder now and I am using the fall Pilot AS3 tires...the summer tires are Pilot 4s in a wider size... The LSD can be helpful but there is an initial loss of traction followed by on throttle grip...it's the transition between those two characteristics that I find difficult to manage for now. Previously, a light lift of the throttle while entering a turn offered some nice rotation...

Front static camber is pretty mild at 1.3 deg neg. but the Ohlin/Vorshlag plates are set to their max positive caster ( set that way from Oline, so I ran with it ). Positive caster is now ~9deg...so perhaps the increase in front roll stiffness isn't allowing enough camber compensation...dunno...it's a work in progress. There are a few very long fast sweepers that I was able to push through and the front bar seemed to be helpful...but is't easier to reach the limit driving through slower speed turns without fear of flying off a public road. Perhaps adjusting the RSB to the stiffer set will create a better compromise...but it feels like there is too much roll stiffness for the street/ all season tires. Not a duh moment, just sharing. I'll report back after I adjust the RSB and play a little...
 
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jay745

What Would Glenn Danzig Do
Location
Slightly Outside Chicago
Car(s)
Mk6 racecar, Tacoma
...not entirely sold on the FSB yet...I previously installed the 034 RSB (25.4) set on the softer position. Had an H&R FSB installed while having the Wavetrac LSD installed and along with the heavy - for street - front spring rates 619 in lb/70nm. The front end does wash out somewhat abruptly through tight radius turns....the FSB is set to the softer position and I will change the RSB position to the stiffer location. The roads are also colder now and I am using the fall Pilot AS3 tires...the summer tires are Pilot 4s in a wider size... The LSD can be helpful but there is an initial loss of traction followed by on throttle grip...it's the transition between those two characteristics that I find difficult to manage for now. Previously, a light lift of the throttle while entering a turn offered some nice rotation...

Front static camber is pretty mild at 1.3 deg neg. but the Oline/Vorshlag plates are set to their max positive caster ( set that way from Oline, so I ran with it ). Positive caster is now ~9deg...so perhaps the increase in front roll stiffness isn't allowing enough camber compensation...dunno...it's a work in progress. There are a few very long fast sweepers that I was able to push through and the front bar seemed to be helpful...but is't easier to reach the limit driving through slower speed turns without fear of flying off a public road. Perhaps adjusting the RSB to the stiffer set will create a better compromise...but it feels like there is too much roll stiffness for the street/ all season tires. Not a duh moment, just sharing. I'll report back after I adjust the RSB and play a little...
A lot of what you're experiencing is likely from the all season tires you have. I'd bet you'd have a much different outlook with a good set of tires.
 

ZuMBLe

Autocross Champion
Location
NY
Car(s)
Alltrack 6MT
I had my FSB set to stiff as well as my rear. Front was hash, twitchy, and seemed to want to understeer once loaded. Switched the fronts to the soft setting and the front is less hash and feels less darty. On the highway sweepers I took, the car seemed more neutral. Of course, my experience could be specific to my car setup. Point is, play around with your settings and dial it in for what's right for you and your car.
 
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