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Door Control Module swap, now no switches work on driver side even after going back to stock.

S-4Motion

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Golf Sportwagen 4Mo
I swapped my door control modules on '19 Sportwagen for 392/393m to 592/593F before Power Folding Mirrors.
After swapping them in, none of the door switches would illuminate, which I haven't seen anyone else have an issue with which is weird, so I swapped the door modules back to stock, but while my passenger door switches work now, none of my driver side switches are working, and neither is my remote window control but I can still lock the car with the remote.
I checked the fuses for the door control modules and they tested good. Didn't have time to get a code scan with vagcom so I'll try to get that tomorrow.
If anyone has any ideas, or can explain why the new modules didn't illuminate my switches when all the other posts have it where the switch just works wrong instead of just not at all.
 

S-4Motion

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
Part No SW: 5Q4 959 393 M HW: 5Q4 959 393 F
Component: TSG FS 006 0247
Serial number: 50038819300548 Dataset Number: V03935287LD 0001
Coding: 003003200000040000000000
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHCONT 001005
ROD: EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHCONT_VW37.rod
VCID: 4DD24E661CE274FE70-8018

Rear Driver Side Door Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 F HW: 5Q4 959 811 F Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
Component: Fond FHSG DRV 010 0004
Serial number: 00000000000000861228
Coding: 011000

2 Faults Found:
196630 - Heated Exterior Mirror
B11F8 14 [00001000] - Open or Short to Ground
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 29320 km
Date: 2024.10.28
Time: 00:00:54

196660 - Motor for Window Regulator
B1487 54 [00001001] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 30359 km
Date: 2024.11.24
Time: 19:31:58


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
Part No SW: 5Q4 959 392 M HW: 5Q4 959 392 F
Component: TSG BFS 006 0247
Serial number: 54038818901026 Dataset Number: V03935287LP 0001
Coding: 003003200000040000000000
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU2PasseSideMAXHCONT 001005
ROD: EV_DCU2PasseSideMAXHCONT_VW37.rod
VCID: 4CD44362E7F87DF667-8018

Rear Passenger Door Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 F HW: 5Q4 959 812 F Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
Component: Fond FHSG PSG 010 0004
Serial number: 00000000000000860186
Coding: 091000

5 Faults Found:
196630 - Heated Exterior Mirror
B11F8 14 [00001001] - Open or Short to Ground
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 37
Mileage: 29320 km
Date: 2024.10.28
Time: 00:14:48

196642 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [00001000] - -
[Door electronics driver side Function limitation due to missing message]
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 30359 km
Date: 2024.11.24
Time: 19:36:25

196644 - Local Data Bus
U10BA 00 [00001000] - No Communication
[Door electronics driver side rear Function limitation due to missing message]
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 30359 km
Date: 2024.11.24
Time: 19:36:25

196660 - Motor for Window Regulator
B1487 54 [00001000] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 30359 km
Date: 2024.11.24
Time: 19:28:47

196661 - Motor for Window Regulator
B1487 13 [00001000] - Open Circuit
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 122
Mileage: 30359 km
Date: 2024.11.24
Time: 18:04:13
Here's the Vagcom Error reading for the door control modules.
 

ZERO815

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Location
Köln Germany
Car(s)
2017 GTI SE DSG
By any chance, did you forget to plug the driver door switch connector back in?
 

S-4Motion

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Golf Sportwagen 4Mo
By any chance, did you forget to plug the driver door switch connector back in?
I checked each connection multiple times and they were all properly clicked and seated.
 

S-4Motion

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Golf Sportwagen 4Mo
Finally made it to the dealership early enough to get my car looked at and was told my factory module was busted. Reprogrammed the GTI modules and they worked perfectly.
So to clarify for future Google-fu padawans.
  • 2019 Mk7.5 Golf Sportwagen will have no lights or working switches if the modules are not properly programmed.
  • 5Q0 959 592/593L Mk8 door control modules when programmed will work except one touch roll up/down, which will not calibrate properly.
 
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Cuzoe

Autocross Champion
Location
Los Angeles
Finally made it to the dealership early enough to get my car looked at and was told my factory module was busted. Reprogrammed the GTI modules and they worked perfectly.
So to clarify for future Google-fu padawans.
  • 2019 Mk7.5 Golf Sportwagen will have no lights or working switches if the modules are not properly programmed.
  • Mk8 door control modules when programmed will work except one touch roll up/down, which will not calibrate properly.

What are you referring to as an MK8 Door Control Module?

For clarity, early Mk8's have 5Q0 door control modules with hardware 592F/593F... but calling them Mk8 modules is not correct as they came in all types of VW's, including Golf Mk7.5s.
- As an aside (not likely applicable to a 2019) the power pins on the main plug are rotated 90 degrees on door control modules with hardware 592E/593E.
- The aside continued... anyone looking to replace their modules needs to confirm what there car has... if you have hardware E don't get anything later (F and after)... unless you plan to replace the connector.


Later Mk8s and Mk8.5s have door control modules with part number 3WA 959 592x/593x. I suppose you could call these "Mk8 Modules" although I would not because again they are in everything (which is why the dataset matters)
- Have you installed 3WA door modules and confirmed they will work? Is there a 3WA module dataset that is compatible with an Mk7/7.5?
- From my Googling physical plugs look the same, and I would guess the wiring is very similar but can't confirm it's the same.
- If someone gets on eBay and searches Mk8 door control module they could get a 5Q0 or 3WA... and I'm not sure a 3WA will work.
 

S-4Motion

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Golf Sportwagen 4Mo
What are you referring to as an MK8 Door Control Module?

For clarity, early Mk8's have 5Q0 door control modules with hardware 592F/593F... but calling them Mk8 modules is not correct as they came in all types of VW's, including Golf Mk7.5s.
- As an aside (not likely applicable to a 2019) the power pins on the main plug are rotated 90 degrees on door control modules with hardware 592E/593E.
- The aside continued... anyone looking to replace their modules needs to confirm what there car has... if you have hardware E don't get anything later (F and after)... unless you plan to replace the connector.


Later Mk8s and Mk8.5s have door control modules with part number 3WA 959 592x/593x. I suppose you could call these "Mk8 Modules" although I would not because again they are in everything (which is why the dataset matters)
- Have you installed 3WA door modules and confirmed they will work? Is there a 3WA module dataset that is compatible with an Mk7/7.5?
- From my Googling physical plugs look the same, and I would guess the wiring is very similar but can't confirm it's the same.
- If someone gets on eBay and searches Mk8 door control module they could get a 5Q0 or 3WA... and I'm not sure a 3WA will work.
Thank you for the clarification, the Mk8 Door Control Modules I am referring to are the 5Q0 959 592L and 593L. These did take the programming but the one touch window did not work even after calibration via OBD. Updated my original update to clarify.
 

Cuzoe

Autocross Champion
Location
Los Angeles
Thank you for the clarification, the Mk8 Door Control Modules I am referring to are the 5Q0 959 592L and 593L. These did take the programming but the one touch window did not work even after calibration via OBD. Updated my original update to clarify.
Gotcha... and yeah a 592/3L is a late (getting near the lat-est) of the 5Q0 modules. I suspect the reason the one touch windows don't work is because the Mk8 uses smaller window motors and the Mk7/7.5 dataset doesn't have a proper table for the current draw (thus calibration fails).

I need my one touch working, haha. But I would also suspect pinch protection no longer works, which would be the bigger deal for me with a toddler who likes to play in the car.
 
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