DCC Suspension Mod by installing the DSC Sport Controller

[scrllock]

I finally got a chance to dig around in the controller tables a bit after the comment about not seeing differences between normal/sport/track and it looks like it's mostly just a "comfort" setting, which looks like a static dampening factor? Gs, Accel, Braking, Launch, etc. are (at least in their stock map) all identical between modes. (Anyone can download the software and config file to poke around)
If you're spending $1300 for the PnP tables on OE shocks and don't plan on tuning them at all, it's not surprising there's either placebo or sticker-shock.

 

[Keehs360]

Interesting discussion. A bit beyond my areas of knowledge. The DSC controller box has a feature to set shock travel stops, for each shock, in mm of travel. It would, I imagine, require a car with travel sensors on each wheel to really make that work. And shocks as well as shock install points that can take the loads.

That’s cool

 

[Keehs360]

I've never taken my GTI out of sport mode since I bought it two years ago

So it’s been on coke this whole time?!

 

[Daks]

So it’s been on coke this whole time?!

Whole time - only way to roll. I like how the suspension feels. It's a GTI - its meant for sport mode.

 

[Keehs360]

Whole time - only way to roll. I like how the suspension feels. It's a GTI - its meant for sport mode.

I leave it all in normal. But I put the dsg in sport

 

[2019 Golf R]

If you want, it's possible to flash the DCC module to the Passat/Arteon 2021 firmware and dataset, which enables a range of 16 modes (from 0 to 15), where 0 is more comfortable than just comfort, and 15 is more stiff than sport.

I'd be very interested in this.... can't find a good link on google... do you know where I could go for this info?

 

[Mosquito]

I finally got a chance to dig around in the controller tables a bit after the comment about not seeing differences between normal/sport/track and it looks like it's mostly just a "comfort" setting, which looks like a static dampening factor? Gs, Accel, Braking, Launch, etc. are (at least in their stock map) all identical between modes. (Anyone can download the software and config file to poke around)
If you're spending $1300 for the PnP tables on OE shocks and don't plan on tuning them at all, it's not surprising there's either placebo or sticker-shock.

Thanks for checking. That is useful information. I recall being told that APR had done their calibration and I know of at least one other person who was told the same so I would expect preset, properly calibrated PnP maps for at least each of the basic modes. The custom maps is a nice option, but wouldn't be my starting point.

I gave this controller a try many moons ago and after all this time I still find myself reading between the lines with these guys. Unfortunate.

 

[Mosquito]

If you want, it's possible to flash the DCC module to the Passat/Arteon 2021 firmware and dataset, which enables a range of 16 modes (from 0 to 15), where 0 is more comfortable than just comfort, and 15 is more stiff than sport.

Interesting. Didn't know it was possible.

I wonder if it proves to be useful. Meaning, you'd have to tie a 0-15 setting to each of the 3 modes and call it a day upon flashing correct? Or do you have a way to self adjust the 16 options from the MIB system yourself?

I recall sometime back that 2019 Rs didn't feel so different between preset modes. My 2017 for instance feels very different between modes.

 

[Chillout]

I wonder if it proves to be useful. Meaning, you'd have to tie a 0-15 setting to each of the 3 modes and call it a day upon flashing correct? Or do you have a way to self adjust the 16 options from the MIB system yourself?

No, that wouldn't be useful if that were the case.
With the right FPA (driving profile) dataset, it's possible to get a slider to set it:

That way, you have the full range available.

 

[Mosquito]

No, that wouldn't be useful if that were the case.
With the right FPA (driving profile) dataset, it's possible to get a slider to set it:

That way, you have the full range available.

Uhh I want that.
Now how do I get it flashed... Dealers are usually not keen to flash unless directed to. Not mine, anyhow.

 

[Keehs360]

Uhh I want that.
Now how do I get it flashed... Dealers are usually not keen to flash unless directed to. Not mine, anyhow.

Same. Maybe he has a mk8?

 

[Mosquito]

Same. Maybe he has a mk8?

Not sure but I came across some prior posts of his and it seems he is quite familiar to flashing modules and software versions so we are going to need some pointers here.

 

[Keehs360]

Not sure but I came across some prior posts of his and it seems he is quite familiar to flashing modules and software versions so we are going to need some pointers here.

Ooooh my mistake. Bless us @Chillout

 

[Mosquito]

I suppose buying a current DCC module for a 2021 Passat/Arteon could work as a mere last resort plug and play option, but that doesn't mean the MIB will enable the extensive adjustment slider by default.

Many of the VCDS tweaks require both, enable of particular module settings and MIB menu separately.

 

[Chillout]

Uhh I want that.
Now how do I get it flashed... Dealers are usually not keen to flash unless directed to. Not mine, anyhow.

Allright, here's what you need:
- DCC Firmware from 2020/2021 Arteon or Passat. They have the 0-15 range.
- The right DCC parametrisation that goes with this firmware
- FPA dataset (Gateway dataset that holds the settings for your driving profiles) that enables the slider.

You can flash them all with ODIS or VCP. VCDS and OBD11 cannot be used to do this.

Same. Maybe he has a mk8?

Nope, I had a MK7 GTE, and currently I'm driving a Seat Leon, which shares about 99% of the technical stuff with the Golf/GTI

I can deliver the firmware and datasets, but I will not post them in the public zone. You can PM me, and I'll send you a link to my dropbox.