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I can't see this getting certified as a class action
I can't see this getting certified as a class action
Being a realist, an aftermarket clutch shouldn’t cause crank walk.OK, I'm confused. We have a problem that happens only on cars with aftermarket clutches (with very few exceptions), which sounds like it isn't a VW problem.
Who are you going to sue? VW? The aftermarket clutch company? The distributor of said aftermarket clutch?
Being a realist, an aftermarket clutch shouldn’t cause crank walk.
Also being a realist, there’s no way this meets the threshold for class action or a recall. VW will repair those that fall under valid warranty claims (virgin drivetrains and no flags) as they arrive. Otherwise they’ll have garage after garage filled with engine bays being torn apart.
Good thing the 2019s still have a good warranty
If mk7s were only DSG I'd be driving a different car, just sayinDSG, just sayin.
If mk7s were only DSG I'd be driving a different car, just sayin
Almost all the failures have been with the twin disk clutch that's rated for 690ft pounds of torque. Yes other clutches have caused the issue and stock cars too, but that clutch and smf clutches are at least 90% of failures
All the mechanics I talk to say no matter what happened is that upgrading a clutch should not cause crank walk? So if manuals, other clutch companies, DSG walked and considering the fact that VW put a GTI clutch in the R’s which is way under rated for that car then they have to of known something. I had an RSR that went out after 1yr and then I went DKM on a brand new R and 6mo later on a brand new car I have had engine failure. I also have a clutch stop/harmonic balanced and honestly was easy on the engine. So I’m say VW
Not supposed to is not the same thing as was designed to. If the car stock can handle its rated performance levels with normal failure rates, its not really the fault of the manufacturer that it starts to fail as soon as people upgrade it. Some engines through the years have been designed to be very upgrade friendly through specific design choices or just being over-built in general. You find that a lot in diesel engines and many older blocks that were just built like brick shit houses cause it was easier to overbuild than not.
The crankwalk issue that the EA888 apparently has in some areas is the 180-degree thrust bearing (which is a very common design these days) isn't as strong for upgraded clutches as past 360-degree bearings. Some failures are sprinkled in on stock cars, but if you look at the entire production versus those stock cars, its barely a blip. Manufacturing flaws could easily encompass those, and be totally normal versus like model vehicles.
I think the tuning market in general is focusing their energy in the wrong area. Crankwalk is a problem on upgraded clutches, the issue is a small bearing, not a faulty bearing. Performance junkies will spend countless dollars on upgraded parts, sweet looking exhaust systems, ECU tunes, etc etc... why not budget to include machine shop time to machine a full diameter bearing? The problem has been solved for the most part by many independent outfits as we've seen linked to across the various threads. Machine a bearing cap, include a larger or additional thrust washer, reinstall. A sub $500 solution is already out there, which a competent machine shop could handle. If the aftermarket sees this as a large enough opportunity, maybe someone should start a commercial process of upgrading existing crank bearing caps (ship yours in, they machine it and ship it back).
These are the same guys that swap in metal oil pans vs plastic, upgrade turbos, hell... upgrade the clutch itself in the first place. Why can't they also account for an upgraded bearing in the process?
I’m not pointing fingers, but on the Evos, a lot of people complained about the stock clutch, however, there are some who just can’t drive a manual, though, they think they can.
Can replacing the suspect thrust bearings be done in-situ from underneath like the BMW guys do with rod bearings?