Consolidated Macan Brembo upgrade thread (READ FIRST POST)

[nono0044]

Dekagrams fit with 10mm spacers.

Side note, checked my pads and rotors. The STi pads def don't overhang. Like sliver of rotor not covered by the pad, not sure if you can see in the pics

 

[MiamiBourne]

I'll take one tomorrow. Got my windows tinted and it took too long. It's too dark out now

Edit: Not the best lighting, but it's not that bad looking between the fronts and the rear
View attachment 165583

Edit 2: @MiamiBourne took a better picture this morning, really had to boost the brightnessView attachment 165607

Thanks, looks great!

 

[xXDavidCXx]

The template is meant for a B8 A4. If I remember correctly, has a bore of 66.5mm (which matches the template). Once corrected, I had no issues fitting the template in my 18s. But it didn't clear the wheel spokes

How did you correct the template? I centered on the hub (66.5) and reduced the left and right sides down to 57.1, keeping the same center. Not sure if that's the correct way to compensate.

 

[AmalgamGTI]

I've compiled some data on popular 4-piston brake swaps (TT-S, Macan/Q5, and B9 A4), and I just wanted to dump this somewhere:

Caliper	Weight per nkresho (lbs)	Weight per DAP (lbs)
Mk7 non-PP	11.70
Mk7 PP/R	15.63	15.63
Mk3 TT-S		9.81

For Macan/Q5 calipers, I've seen numbers ranging from 8.8 to 9.5 lbs, but no one has also weighed the factory calipers for a baseline. I haven't been able to find the weight for B9 A4 calipers yet, but if anybody knows, I'm really curious. I suspect that they’re similar in weight to the other aluminum calipers.

Rotors:

Original Application	Size (mm)	Weight (lbs)	Centric Part Number
Mk7 non-PP	312x25	18.80	125.33098
Mk7 PP/R	340x30	23.90	125.33144
Mk6 R (for Macan/Q5 calipers)	345x30	27.25	125.33112
B8 A4 (for B9 A4 calipers)	320x30	22.15	125.33136

Clubsport S 2-piece rotors (340x30mm) are another option. Part number is 5Q0615301C. Multiple sites have weights for the CSS rotors at 21.61 lbs compared to the OEM 340x30mm rotor at 23.59 lbs.

For PP/R cars, it looks like a weight savings of ~6 lbs for the TT-S swap, ~3 lbs for the Macan/Q5 swap, and probably ~8 lbs for a B9 A4 swap. These are weight savings per corner and don't include weight of pads, lines, or hardware, of course.

 

[AxMan]

I need to weight my two piece OE rotors to add to your chart. This should be moved into the first post. Good info ??

 

[AmalgamGTI]

I need to weight my two piece OE rotors to add to your chart. This should be moved into the first post. Good info ??

Thanks! I didn't know about these. Found some weights and added some info on them.

 

[yirayira]

Yeah...I'm probably letting my OCD take over but your fronts look amazing in that color. Do you have a side pic showing both fronts and rear? I want to check my OCD.

Porter the dog has yet to notice the mismatched wheels ?

 

[Dubstro]

Rotors:

Original Application	Size (mm)	Weight (lbs)	Centric Part Number
Mk7 non-PP	312x25	18.80	125.33098
Mk7 PP/R	340x30	23.90	125.33144
Mk6 R (for Macan/Q5 calipers)	345x30	27.25	125.33112
B8 A4 (for B9 A4 calipers)	320x30	22.15	125.33136

Clubsport S 2-piece rotors (340x30mm) are another option. Part number is 5Q0615301C. Multiple sites have weights for the CSS rotors at 23.59 lbs compared to the OEM 340x30mm rotor at 21.61 lbs.


For PP/R cars, it looks like a weight savings of ~6 lbs for the TT-S swap, ~3 lbs for the Macan/Q5 swap, and probably ~8 lbs for a B9 A4 swap. These are weight savings per corner and don't include weight of pads, lines, or hardware, of course.

Great info! I bought the zimmerman 312s for my GSW and 345s for the Macan setup. There was a very apparent weight difference but surprised it's that much. I'm assuming they are close in weight to OE. Looks like I may be adding ~6lbs on each side going from the non-pp to Macan calipers w/345s. But still about 3 lbs less than doing a PP swap.

 

[jmblur]

Great info! I bought the zimmerman 312s for my GSW and 345s for the Macan setup. There was a very apparent weight difference but surprised it's that much. I'm assuming they are close in weight to OE. Looks like I may be adding ~6lbs on each side going from the non-pp to Macan calipers w/345s. But still about 3 lbs less than doing a PP swap.

Brake rotor weight isn't bad weight either- it means more thermal mass, which will heat up slower. Combined with the (somewhat) increased surface area, it will also cool faster.

 

[Dubstro]

Brake rotor weight isn't bad weight either- it means more thermal mass, which will heat up slower. Combined with the (somewhat) increased surface area, it will also cool faster.

Ah I see. Thanks for the explanation!

 

[AmalgamGTI]

Thermal mass for resistance against brake fade and improved heat dissipation is definitely something to consider! I don’t have much experience with this, but I’m assuming 340 vs 345 mm rotors wont be that large of a difference on a street driven car to persuade you to do a PP upgrade over a Macan upgrade. Pretty surprising that that extra 5mm of diameter accounts for roughly 3 lbs in weight. I do like the look of a giant rotors, though.

 

[jmblur]

Ah I see. Thanks for the explanation!

One caveat - you can be overbraked! If your car isn't heavy enough and/or powerful enough to heat up the rotors significantly on the track, then a bigger rotor is just added weight.

 

[AmalgamGTI]

One caveat - you can be overbraked! If your car isn't heavy enough and/or powerful enough to heat up the rotors significantly on the track, then a bigger rotor is just added weight.

Thanks! Haven’t heard of this before. Most platforms that I look into, people just put the biggest setup available for track duty.

 

[toothofwar]

I've compiled some data on popular 4-piston brake swaps (TT-S, Macan/Q5, and B9 A4), and I just wanted to dump this somewhere:

Caliper	Weight per nkresho (lbs)	Weight per DAP (lbs)
Mk7 non-PP	11.70
Mk7 PP/R	15.63	15.63
Mk3 TT-S		9.81

For Macan/Q5 calipers, I've seen numbers ranging from 8.8 to 9.5 lbs, but no one has also weighed the factory calipers for a baseline. I haven't been able to find the weight for B9 A4 calipers yet, but if anybody knows, I'm really curious. I suspect that they’re similar in weight to the other aluminum calipers.


Rotors:

Original Application	Size (mm)	Weight (lbs)	Centric Part Number
Mk7 non-PP	312x25	18.80	125.33098
Mk7 PP/R	340x30	23.90	125.33144
Mk6 R (for Macan/Q5 calipers)	345x30	27.25	125.33112
B8 A4 (for B9 A4 calipers)	320x30	22.15	125.33136

Clubsport S 2-piece rotors (340x30mm) are another option. Part number is 5Q0615301C. Multiple sites have weights for the CSS rotors at 21.61 lbs compared to the OEM 340x30mm rotor at 23.59 lbs.


For PP/R cars, it looks like a weight savings of ~6 lbs for the TT-S swap, ~3 lbs for the Macan/Q5 swap, and probably ~8 lbs for a B9 A4 swap. These are weight savings per corner and don't include weight of pads, lines, or hardware, of course.

I have the b9 a4 caliper and bds slotted rotors currently installed. Come warmer weather I'll be pulling them off and painting them, I will weigh them once I do. Should be interesting to see the difference. One thing to note, the stock pads on the b9 has weights on them also, so this would be considered in the final total also.

 

[AmalgamGTI]

I have the b9 a4 caliper and bds slotted rotors currently installed. Come warmer weather I'll be pulling them off and painting them, I will weigh them once I do. Should be interesting to see the difference. One thing to note, the stock pads on the b9 has weights on them also, so this would be considered in the final total also.

Yeah! I saw your thread. Really good info and pics. And I noticed those cylindrical weights or dowels on the wings that extend out from the pad. I couldn't quite figure out what the point of those were. At the moment, I'm most interested in the B9 A4 calipers, so some weights would be awesome. Thanks!