jay745
track sl00t
- Location
- Slightly Outside Chicago
- Car(s)
- Mk6 racecar, Tacoma
Well yeah, they're also rebuilding brakes every race
not really apples to apples here.7
Consolidated Macan Brembo upgrade thread (READ FIRST POST)
- Thread starter GTIfan99
- Start date
not really apples to apples here.
gsw4motion
New member
- Location
- El Paso, TX
- Car(s)
- 19 GTI S 6MT
Off topic about grease but found some lifetime warranty pads for these calipers. Hawk DTC-60. Excited to try them out at trackday/time attack next weekend. Is it recommended to run SS lines and/or upgraded pads in the rear or depends on track and whats needed from the brakes? I was thinking about using Ferodo DS2500 in rear. Thanks GTIfan99 for posting up brake pad info. https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/volvo-brake-pad-set-hawk-hb453g-585
jay745
track sl00t
- Location
- Slightly Outside Chicago
- Car(s)
- Mk6 racecar, Tacoma
Eh the rubber lines these days have come a long way and are fine. Stainless are better for track cars but you have to replace them every year or two.
Dt60's work well, but they eat your rotors so keep an eye on that. Carbotech pads are the way, they're expensive but worth it for better performance and they don't chew the rotors up. I use the xp12 compound for the front (bbk) and xp10 for the rears.
TheMuffinMan
Go Kart Newbie
- Location
- Virginia
Picked up some ZImmerman blanks to replace the fronts.
No dice on warranty stuff from StopTech/TireRack
No dice on warranty stuff from StopTech/TireRack
No you don't absolutely need upgraded pads, and I didn't think they made much difference, but I was wrong. Car understeered less under braking with better rear pads.
jay745
track sl00t
- Location
- Slightly Outside Chicago
- Car(s)
- Mk6 racecar, Tacoma
Absolutely need upgraded rear pads. The car will be super squirrelly trail braking without.
have ran mixed SS/rubber lines before, not a huge difference. honestly it's pretty difficult to tell the difference even with full stainless lines
DannyDigital
New member
- Location
- Boston
- Car(s)
- mk7 gti
Reporting in on current config:
Macan Calipers W/OEM lines + Red Rubber Grease
345mm zimmerman blank rotors
Ferodo DS2500 *no longer using these*
RS3 Ducts
Neuspeed titanium shims
Permatex Ceramic Extreme lube on pad backing, pins and clips
After a couple rounds of bleeding the brakes felt good. They are more than anyone could need on the street. The pedal was nice and high and stopping was noticeably improved. On the track, the pedal was high but I didn't like the modulation as much (vague pedal feel when hard braking which caused traction light in sport mode). I'm running OBD11 mods with booster set to 1. I decided to add the EBC Master cylinder brace and try PFC 08 pads (more endurance based). The pedal is even more instantaneous than before. If RRG is an 8, adding the MCB makes it a 9. I think adding RPV's would make them too touchy and possibly induce drag at this point. I've done about 6 events and will most likely keep this setup for next year (will replace oem seals with high temp version). The rears have Ferodo DS2500's. Overall this is a great budget brake setup!
Macan Calipers W/OEM lines + Red Rubber Grease
345mm zimmerman blank rotors
Ferodo DS2500 *no longer using these*
RS3 Ducts
Neuspeed titanium shims
Permatex Ceramic Extreme lube on pad backing, pins and clips
After a couple rounds of bleeding the brakes felt good. They are more than anyone could need on the street. The pedal was nice and high and stopping was noticeably improved. On the track, the pedal was high but I didn't like the modulation as much (vague pedal feel when hard braking which caused traction light in sport mode). I'm running OBD11 mods with booster set to 1. I decided to add the EBC Master cylinder brace and try PFC 08 pads (more endurance based). The pedal is even more instantaneous than before. If RRG is an 8, adding the MCB makes it a 9. I think adding RPV's would make them too touchy and possibly induce drag at this point. I've done about 6 events and will most likely keep this setup for next year (will replace oem seals with high temp version). The rears have Ferodo DS2500's. Overall this is a great budget brake setup!
Thanks for this info. EBC brace or ECS?
DannyDigital
New member
- Location
- Boston
- Car(s)
- mk7 gti
ECS! On the topic of EBC, I did run EBC yellow pads for 4 years and never had much of an issue (predictable and rotor friendly). At a faster pace they really fall off though. My Dad toasted a pair of Blue's in 1 day at WGI in his R. To be honest I couldn't tell much of a difference between DS2500 and EBC Yellow/Blues. Alot of it has to do with temps. With the setup above, the rotors were seeing 600F on a 70 degree day. I think that can be decreased alot with curved vain/2-piece rotor and definitely with some proper brake ducting.
Right on! I wasn’t aware of the MC brace at all. Thank you for putting it on my radar.
dtfd
Autocross Champion
- Location
- Massachusetts
- Car(s)
- MK7.5 GTI
Thank you for this. I've been going back and forth on if I wanted to try getting a MCB or if it was just snake oil.
Found real brake ducts that work with mk7 and mk7.5. They replace the fog lights.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...Y13jK7aXl&id=1276552372482885&mibextid=Nif5oz
Cuzoe
Autocross Champion
- Location
- Los Angeles
I often make several (maybe dozens) of stops from 10, sometimes even 12 mph down to zero in rapid succession on the I-405 South... I should brake ducts!!!
Charlotte.:R
Autocross Champion
- Location
- Charlotte
- Car(s)
- '18 Golf R 6MT
I have it. Can't say I felt any difference in daily driving
That being said, it certainly can't hurt. It's not particularly expensive, and it's easy to install.