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Consolidated Macan Brembo upgrade thread (READ FIRST POST)

Raguvian

Drag Racing Champion
Location
Denver
Car(s)
2019 GSW 4MO 6MT
I don’t. I haven’t put them back together as they are back at the powder coater. I would not think they are single use bolts. I’m going to just put them together based upon feel using some blue locktite. I remember them taking a decent amount of torque to remove. - AB
Being made by Brembo and not VW I'd assume they wouldn't be single use bolts but being brakes I'm paranoid lol
 

B1mmer

New member
Location
Matthews, NC
Being made by Brembo and not VW I'd assume they wouldn't be single use bolts but being brakes I'm paranoid lol
I’m with you on that. No one wants much in regards to chance when it comes to brakes. In this case the bolts are only holding the two halves together. There’s no sealing of brake fluid channels or anything like that, so I’ll get them nice and snug without over torquing them hopefully and the loctite will keep them there. I do wish I knew the spec, but knowing how I am, I will check them as part of my on “nut and bolt” routine prior to and during any track event. - AB
 

GTIfan99

Autocross Champion
Location
FL
I’m with you on that. No one wants much in regards to chance when it comes to brakes. In this case the bolts are only holding the two halves together. There’s no sealing of brake fluid channels or anything like that, so I’ll get them nice and snug without over torquing them hopefully and the loctite will keep them there. I do wish I knew the spec, but knowing how I am, I will check them as part of my on “nut and bolt” routine prior to and during any track event. - AB
1.5 ugga diggas is what you want.
 

Raguvian

Drag Racing Champion
Location
Denver
Car(s)
2019 GSW 4MO 6MT
I’m with you on that. No one wants much in regards to chance when it comes to brakes. In this case the bolts are only holding the two halves together. There’s no sealing of brake fluid channels or anything like that, so I’ll get them nice and snug without over torquing them hopefully and the loctite will keep them there. I do wish I knew the spec, but knowing how I am, I will check them as part of my on “nut and bolt” routine prior to and during any track event. - AB

Yeah, I noticed there was no fluids that pass between the two halves internally, hence why I was thinking about pulling them apart. I'd be way less willing to split the calipers if I had to re seal them as well.

I think I'll just do what you're going to do and use some blue loctite and snug them up and double check them once in a while. Thanks!
 

pk_mk07

New member
Location
MI, US
Car(s)
MK7 R, Lexus IS300
Great post OP and team! Very descriptive and helpful.
However, I was wondering if there are any Porsche branded 6 piston drop in replacement options instead of the 4 pistons..
I have read about and seen youtube videos of mk5 and mk6 GTIs installing 6 piston Cayenne calipers without adapters, would that work for the mk7 R as well?

 

Cuzoe

Autocross Newbie
Location
Los Angeles
Great post OP and team! Very descriptive and helpful.
However, I was wondering if there are any Porsche branded 6 piston drop in replacement options instead of the 4 pistons..
I have read about and seen youtube videos of mk5 and mk6 GTIs installing 6 piston Cayenne calipers without adapters, would that work for the mk7 R as well?
If you switch to Mk6 (steel) steering knuckles you can bolt on 17z/18z 6 pot brakes (for 17"/18" wheels respectively). I had the 17z's and they are significantly larger than these Macan calipers, physically speaking. Meaning I had to run a 10mm spacer where now I don't run a spacer (on Neuspeed RSE05's which are already BBK friendly). That won't matter if you already run or don't mind running spacers.

The 17z/18z also have more piston area, naturally being 6 pot, and so are even further from ideal for your master cylinder. I didn't mind the brake feel on the 17z's because I don't really do any serious driving but the pedal is definitely better with the Macan calipers (even before the VCDS tweaks in the first post).

For the trouble, if you want/need 6 pots I would go with a BBK designed for your master cylinder and aluminum knuckles instead of replacing them with heavier steel ones just to run 17z/18z's. Another minor annoyance, the 17z/18z calipers (that I've seen) do not have threaded inserts. Instead you have a bolt and nut to hold them to the knuckle. They are kind of a pain to take on/off since you have to get a tool on both sides, instead of just on the inboard of side of the knuckle. I wrench for a living and have the right tools, it was still annoying.
 

pk_mk07

New member
Location
MI, US
Car(s)
MK7 R, Lexus IS300
Are there any break pads that fit the Macan calipers and come with a pad wear sensor?
Apologies if this question has already been answered somewhere in this giant 102 pages thread.
 

pk_mk07

New member
Location
MI, US
Car(s)
MK7 R, Lexus IS300
If you switch to Mk6 (steel) steering knuckles you can bolt on 17z/18z 6 pot brakes (for 17"/18" wheels respectively). I had the 17z's and they are significantly larger than these Macan calipers, physically speaking. Meaning I had to run a 10mm spacer where now I don't run a spacer (on Neuspeed RSE05's which are already BBK friendly). That won't matter if you already run or don't mind running spacers.

The 17z/18z also have more piston area, naturally being 6 pot, and so are even further from ideal for your master cylinder. I didn't mind the brake feel on the 17z's because I don't really do any serious driving but the pedal is definitely better with the Macan calipers (even before the VCDS tweaks in the first post).

For the trouble, if you want/need 6 pots I would go with a BBK designed for your master cylinder and aluminum knuckles instead of replacing them with heavier steel ones just to run 17z/18z's. Another minor annoyance, the 17z/18z calipers (that I've seen) do not have threaded inserts. Instead you have a bolt and nut to hold them to the knuckle. They are kind of a pain to take on/off since you have to get a tool on both sides, instead of just on the inboard of side of the knuckle. I wrench for a living and have the right tools, it was still annoying.
Thank you for the detailed explanation Cuzoe. Spent some time on this over the weekend and also talked to Rob from Rotorlab (wasn't the best conversation as he was not willing to say anything about the work that needs to be done and wants me to trust him and jump into the rabbit hole....) nevertheless, I decided Macan base caliper swap makes more sense in my case.
 

GTIfan99

Autocross Champion
Location
FL
Are there any break pads that fit the Macan calipers and come with a pad wear sensor?
Apologies if this question has already been answered somewhere in this giant 102 pages thread.
If you need a pad with sensor, buy pad for RS3, buy sensor separately. If you already have the sensor, you may be able to reuse it, just buy a pad listed for RS3.
 
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Raguvian

Drag Racing Champion
Location
Denver
Car(s)
2019 GSW 4MO 6MT
I got the 4 e torx bolts removed off of one caliper. They were on there tight! Now to sand and mask off all the holes so I can paint next weekend.

I could probably get away with just painting the outside half of the caliper as the rest will be hidden behind the rotor, but then I would know I half assed it and wouldn't be happy...
 

zucchinies

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
San Diego
Car(s)
2020 A3
Plan on doing these but torn on if I should powdercoat or paint. I know powdercoat would be better results but I don't want to split them open myself. Does anyone know a shop or person that'd split them and paint them?
 

scrllock

Go Kart Newbie
Location
MI
Best to check with local car groups to see if they'd recommend a good shop. I'd say if you intend to track with them, go with high temp paint, otherwise up to your powdercoater on how much prep they want. Local shop I talked to just wanted the boots/pistons/seals taken out.
 

zucchinies

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
San Diego
Car(s)
2020 A3
Best to check with local car groups to see if they'd recommend a good shop. I'd say if you intend to track with them, go with high temp paint, otherwise up to your powdercoater on how much prep they want. Local shop I talked to just wanted the boots/pistons/seals taken out.
I do plan on tracking occasionally maybe once or twice a year. I'll ask around local since there seems to be a good VAG crowd in socal.
 

Raguvian

Drag Racing Champion
Location
Denver
Car(s)
2019 GSW 4MO 6MT
Plan on doing these but torn on if I should powdercoat or paint. I know powdercoat would be better results but I don't want to split them open myself. Does anyone know a shop or person that'd split them and paint them?

Now that I've finally split mine, any reason you don't want to? It's 4 bolts and removing the crossover line. Didn't take very long.
 
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