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Clutch failure at 12k miles - no warning signs...

GTI Jake

Drag Racing Champion
Location
Charlotte, NC
A SMF aftermarket clutch may be slightly louder at low speeds (more so with an aggressive disk material, commonly ceramic in stage 3, 4, and 5 clutches), but in tern will provide much better pedal feel, more clamping force, higher torque rating, and longer life. Very little negative with tons of positive
 

dragoncoach

Ready to race!
Location
SF Bay Area
If they said 1k in labor before they started they should stand by that number. That's ten hours of labor at $100 an hour, which may be what the flat rate book says but it's way over what it really takes (4-5 hours). If you're paying out of pocket and providing the aftermarket clutch they really have no say. Whatever the case I'd play it as follows:

Option 1: Zero out of pocket, they replace it with OEM under warranty

Option 2: You pay the $1000 in labor you agreed to if they couldn't cover it and they install the performance clutch of your choice (about another $1,000 give or take)

I'd never pay for a known bad design/problematic OEM replacement clutch, especially not $2400
If the dealer agrees to install an aftermarket clutch and it is either defective or goes out in 1k miles, who is going to cover the labor? Certainly not the dealer. The problem with dealers installing aftermarket parts is the liability. This is why people go to good indys. The only thing I can think of to getting around installing your parts is to sign a waiver releasing the dealer from all responsibility. This is a sticky situation but I'd probably just let the dealer install the OEM clutch and drive the car. The OP appears to know how to drive sticks, and should get a good serviceable life out of the new clutch.
 

Rosaymaan

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
SoCal
So the dealer has and will install an aftermarket clutch but the warranty would come from the manufacturer - as with any other shop from what I understand

What
 

2slowvw

Moderator
Location
VA
Ride
2016 GTI
If the dealer wont fix for free go somewhere else and save a lot of money.

They will still charge him labor for the inspection (the $1000) if it's not covered. So since it is already taken apart there you wouldn't pay someone else additional money for it.

If not covered, now would be the time to put an upgraded clutch in.


On a side note, god my clutch looked immaculate when i upgraded mine compare to yours haha.
 

Rosaymaan

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
SoCal
Hey folks so question. Now that i know the prior owner was harder on the tranny (or may not have known how to drive a manual) what else should I be checking on in terms of improper wear?

Also, with the tranny out of the car, what else should I be having done (if anything) just because?

I'm probably going to have them install the sachs SRE kit
 

Rosaymaan

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
SoCal
UPDATE -- 63 miles on the dealer installed Sachs SRE clutch + new DMF and the clutch has failed AGAIN.

So pissed at VW right now. I knew I wasn't crazy. Clutches don't just fail all of a sudden. Wife texted me today saying low oil pressure light came on. An hour later she called to say the car "had a stroke" and won't shift into gear.

The dealership I'm working with has been pretty good (at least as far as stealerships go). They agreed to install the SRE clutch and gave me a 20% break on the labor (still cost me $850 tho so wasn't cheap). Regardless, I'm fairly certain they can't use the "driver error" excuse with only 60 miles on the clutch that they installed. I even agreed to drive around with the shop foreman on the new clutch so he could "give me some pointers" (waste of time). However, I'm worried they are now going to pull some "not an OEM clutch" BS.

Anyway, it does sound alot like the "crank walk" issue others have had - especially this last incarnation with the oil light. I mentioned this possibility to them the first time around and I got eye rolls b/c I said i got the tip from a forum. I hope it is so they can choke on it. If it is I better get every penny and then some back. WTF volkswagen?!
 

Rosaymaan

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
SoCal
UPDATE:

got a call from the SA this AM. He says the car is driving fine now (despite not being able to get the car into gear on Sunday and having it towed). They are still looking into issues. He mentioned they have a "throttle body adapdation" fault/error code and that could have caused the issue.

I keep asking about "crank walk" and he says they will "look into it". Did other crank walk issues throw throttle body adaptation codes?
 

Rosaymaan

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
SoCal
Just got a call from the SA. He says they can't find anything wrong with the car. Shifts fine and have gone for 2 test drives. He said they checked the oil and and didn't find any metal in it, but they did not drop the oil pan or anything. I've asked them to put in writing that the car is not suffering from this "crank walk" issue. He said he has to call me back. Not sure how the car could be unable to shift and need to be towed one moment and now drives fine...
 

Ital

Ready to race!
Location
Italian in CT
Rosaymann, whatever happen with this? do you have an update on what was the final issue? I am trying to troubleshoot a clutch issue my self. My clutched just stopped working all f the sudden as well, like something just snapped.

Thank you
 

Ital

Ready to race!
Location
Italian in CT
Hey The Fed, how you doing? nice to see your still hanging around :) yeah i checked his post history and from what I can tell, looks like they installed the stock clutch back in and then he sold the car and the barely used sachs clutch
 

The Fed

Old Guys Rule
Location
Florida
Hey The Fed, how you doing? nice to see your still hanging around :) yeah i checked his post history and from what I can tell, looks like they installed the stock clutch back in and then he sold the car and the barely used sachs clutch
Doing well, thanks. I suppose the moral of his story is, don't buy any used manual car if you're not prepared to replace the clutch.
 

gtifisherman

New member
Location
Webster, NY
Hey The Fed, how you doing? nice to see your still hanging around :) yeah i checked his post history and from what I can tell, looks like they installed the stock clutch back in and then he sold the car and the barely used sachs clutch
I am almost certain from the story that his thrust washer failed and e had crank walk. Good move on selling the car and clutch.
 
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