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Can anybodt shift this @#*! thing smoothly?

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rdbeer

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The 'rev hang' thing is a separate issue, right?

This is my first turbo, and I'm surprised at how much more you have to think about exactly where to shift. I agree, CA-GTI, unless you really wind it up in 1st, you end up dropping into the sub-3k zone in 2nd, and it feels like the car is bogging down. This is not fun :mad:

I think I'm starting to get used to that, though. If I really want to move out, I take it up to redline in 1st, and avoid the bog. If I'm just doing moderate acceleration, avoid the turbo by shifting in the low 3ks without a lot of throttle. I can tolerate this problem in exchange for the rocket launch capability the turbo offers :D
 
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AlenSubasic

AlenSubasic

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Des Moines, IA
The gas pedal is very sensitive as well which I think is part of the problem but I agree shifting is tricky.
I usually have issues when just getting in the car and after about 10min it seems to get better.
 
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CAMOETO

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SE MI
You guys and gals are a bunch of whiners. After owning two GM 6.2 liter manual cars (a manual G8 GXP and a manual Camaro SS), this car shifts like a Honda :D
 
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GJK

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Canada
rdbeer said:
Good to hear that I'm not alone! Thanks for the ideas and suggestions.

I'll try the BMS clutch stop, I can see that could make it easier to reliably find the clutch engagement point.

Will keep working on it, too. I'm at maybe 90% smooth 1-2 shifts now, it's that last 10% (often under hard acceleration when I'm not paying close attention to the clutch) where I have the problem. Maybe it is a tougher shift than on my MkIV just because this car has far more torque.
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I used a clutch stop for about 6 months then took it out before a visit to the dealer. Never re-installed it - the clutch stop 'trained' me I guess: shifting is now smooth as silk.
 
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xGreg

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Took me some time to adjust coming from a mk4 gti. Now I shift smooth for the most part but find myself sitting on the clutch from 1st to 2nd gear every now and then.
 
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Davey Jones

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Austin, TX
CAMOETO said:
You guys and gals are a bunch of whiners. After owning two GM 6.2 liter manual cars (a manual G8 GXP and a manual Camaro SS), this car shifts like a Honda :D
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Haha, well I came from my commuter Si which had the smoothest gear box I've ever driven, so it was definitely rough getting used to the 1 > 2 shift in this car.
 
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huh0kay

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
SF
I drove a clunky '03 WRX manual for 10 years and it was more predictable than this. Probably from the pedal feedback, which the GTI lacks in comparison.
 
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PLF8593

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Philly
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19 Alltrack 6MT
If you've been driving stick for 26 years and you've done the delay valve delete and are still struggling, the issue is your transmission.
 
PLF8593

PLF8593

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rdbeer said:
This is my first turbo, and I'm surprised at how much more you have to think about exactly where to shift. I agree, CA-GTI, unless you really wind it up in 1st, you end up dropping into the sub-3k zone in 2nd, and it feels like the car is bogging down. This is not fun
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Herein lies your problem. You rev it too much.

If you want smooth shifts, shift 1-2 @ 2K, then ease onto the throttle once 2nd's fully engaged.

(Yes, this will put you at approximately 1K rpms in 2nd)
 
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rdbeer

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San Diego, California
Have the BMS clutch stop on order, will report back once I sort things out.

I, too, started my stick shift life in a Honda ('86 Civic S hatchback), so I have high expectations.
 
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