I won't ever do that. The motor's got great correction built in but not how I'd like to get it caught out. Running lean (it likely would with that boost at that RPM without adding FOL) with way too much boost at the top of the RPM range.
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Burger Tuning JB4 Golf 1.8TSI MQB specific information thread
- Thread starter George Smooth
- Start date
Yeah, I would hope he comes back soon so we can continue.. haha.
ghost101101
Passed Driver's Ed
- Location
- NC
- Car(s)
- 2016 Golf SE 1.8 TSI
@ZuMBLe I shifted to 4th a little over 5900, it was 77 out and on the same fuel.
https://datazap.me/u/mattcarr/5900-4th?log=0&data=1-4-11-15-25-26-27
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https://datazap.me/u/mattcarr/5900-4th?log=0&data=1-4-11-15-25-26-27
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I'd also drop 1500 to 1 and 2000 to 3
You can try bumping up 4000 and 4500 up 0.5 psi
If I recall correctly, you have a DSG and max RPM will be 6k unless you force more which doesn't make you faster. This is safer, keeps it spooling fine and is within normal motor operating compensation parameters. I personally think that's a great looking curve with a strong and even pull. It can look a little stronger in the mids so you could try the small bump there to see how much pull you get.
Basically this that I'll also try when I get a chance.
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Probably right with what the overall advance looks like in 4th but won't hurt anything with another .5 in the mids to see what happens. Just needs to tailor the top and bottom. A DSG is doing about 80 before shifting to 4th. Higher in sport so not a huge concern for a daily driver.
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ghost101101
Passed Driver's Ed
- Location
- NC
- Car(s)
- 2016 Golf SE 1.8 TSI
Thanks guys, I will try the additive and absolute settings tonight if I have time.
In comparison to Map 2, our Map 6 numbers are slightly lower. Is this because FOL is 60 on Map 6 or is Map 2 more powerful? Here is the log and numbers of Map 2 from winter. Should I get a new log of Map 2 in warm weather?
https://datazap.me/u/mattcarr/map-2?log=0&data=1-4-11-15-25-26-27
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In comparison to Map 2, our Map 6 numbers are slightly lower. Is this because FOL is 60 on Map 6 or is Map 2 more powerful? Here is the log and numbers of Map 2 from winter. Should I get a new log of Map 2 in warm weather?
https://datazap.me/u/mattcarr/map-2?log=0&data=1-4-11-15-25-26-27
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Funny how my absolute numbers basically came back to Map 2 values below 5000 RPM. You're in the ballpark. There is no magic. You just ask more of the car until the car says no.
Universal map 2 is fine but it's even better to fine tune. Interesting that you weren't getting any timing correction on map 2 in winter. Cold air.
I'm assuming it's a used JB4. I don't think default FOL on map 6 is 60. Thought it was something like 45. Try 50. ECU might be thinking somethings wrong at 60 and messing things up a bit though I don't see it in the logs. I believe a value like 60 is for when you add a couple/few gallons of E85 etc.
ghost101101
Passed Driver's Ed
- Location
- NC
- Car(s)
- 2016 Golf SE 1.8 TSI
Alright, I will lower boost safety to 17.
I made FOL 60 because you told me to... lol.
That’s why I wondered if Map 2 is better than Map 6 on my car for whatever reason.
I got correction using the identical settings from Map 2 on Map 6 in similar winter temperature. Maybe I’m missing something but that’s why I asked if I should just run Map 2.39 F for these logs. Do you guys think I should just run Map 2 or am I making progress on Map 6?
https://datazap.me/u/mattcarr/zumble?log=0&data=1-3-4-11-15-25-26-27
Yes, it’s used. That’s why I couldn’t ask George for advice.
I can’t test tonight. Maybe tomorrow, if it’s not too rainy. I will log Map 2 again so we can compare results with the additive and absolute Map 6 settings. Pray I don’t get pulled over.
If you do, show the cop your logs and tell him what you're doing and waiting for empty space to do so etc. Cops are people too and sometimes enjoy getting engaged. Stop at the top of 3rd. We really don't 'need' 4th on the DSG.
I plugged in the last add map I recommended you try. I don't have time to run a log but will in the next week or so after I get a fresh tank of gas. The difference in cylinder timing you're getting between map 2 and 6 is likely coincidence/conditions. Last summer, I had runs with 17psi that looked great but can't run that right now. I didn't even adjust FOL here. ( I should have had it at 50 or so). Had other summer runs with 16 max and got worse results.
https://datazap.me/u/goodvibes/11-13-15-16-17-17-17-17-16-15-14-13?log=0&data=1-2-3-4-11-25-26-27
If you do absolute, this is a nice curve for the 1.8 but start lower.
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It really does help. Just need to be very conservative with the setting and it's seamless. Really helps the enjoyment factor and the lowest setting is as easy/easier to modulate as stock.
