Bilstein b6 damptronic

[Greg_mk7]

I recently installed b6 damptronic struts on my golf r. Car still has too much body roll for my liking. What would be a good lowering spring that will reduce body roll but have the least drop as the roads where I live are terrible and im pretty content with the stock ride height.
I know that eibach pro kit is highly recommended but with the front spring rate being lower than oem springs i dont see how that will reduce roll.

 

[Klrider44]

I can’t compare my b6 damptronics with stock springs because I put them on with my VWR springs at the same time. I do like the pair together though, it’s not too low and the VWR spring are DCC compliant.

 

[Brian_]

Sway bars will have a much greater impact in reducing body roll than any of the MK7 lowering springs while not reducing your ground clearance or suspension travel.

 

[EEeegolf]

Indeed. That's why they are called anti-roll bars.

 

[doctorGolfR]

I agree with the anti-roll bar comments. I have the H&R front and rear installed for the past 3 years (first the rear then the front). They really reduced body roll and made the ride much more responsive. Contrary to common comments, I think both are needed and not just the rear.

I had Bilstein B6 damptronics and Eibach Pro Kit springs put on 2 weeks ago, and there's even further reduction in body roll with a vast improvement in the ride quality. The drop is minimal and almost unnoticeable.

The car is beyond fun to push now and is somehow more comfortable than stock.

 

[HuntR]

I'm installing B6 DCC's with Eibach springs this weekend--is it necessary, or recommended, to trim front and rear bump stops to compensate for the reduction in travel?

 

[HuntR]

So I installed the B6 shocks today. Did the OBD11 ‘adapting with deflected wheels’ and took the car for a spin. So far it’s a bit firmer overall and not a great deal of distinction between modes. I’ll be getting a mountain drive in this coming weekend so will have a better feel for it all after that. I did trim about 5mm off the front bumpers and 10mm off the rears. I currently have my front Whiteline ARB on the min setting-we’ll see how it handles big sweepers in the mountains, which is where I feel the car has had too much roll. I also have Eurocode front chassis brace, Eurosport upper mounts for neg camber and steel LCA’s with solid rubber bushings.

 

[doctorGolfR]

So I installed the B6 shocks today. Did the OBD11 ‘adapting with deflected wheels’ and took the car for a spin. So far it’s a bit firmer overall and not a great deal of distinction between modes. I’ll be getting a mountain drive in this coming weekend so will have a better feel for it all after that. I did trim about 5mm off the front bumpers and 10mm off the rears. I currently have my front Whiteline ARB on the min setting-we’ll see how it handles big sweepers in the mountains, which is where I feel the car has had too much roll. I also have Eurocode front chassis brace, Eurosport upper mounts for neg camber and steel LCA’s with solid rubber bushings.

Can I ask why you trimmed the bump stops?

 

[HuntR]

Can I ask why you trimmed the bump stops?

I had the thought to do that to compensate for the reduced travel from the Eibach springs.

 

[IGM2019]

How much firmer is the ride? Still comfy for DDing?

 

[doctorGolfR]

I had the thought to do that to compensate for the reduced travel from the Eibach springs.

Ah, I see. Even though spring rates are almost similar?

 

[HuntR]

Ah, I see. Even though spring rates are almost similar?

I didn’t put a ton of passion into the cutting lol-pretty much could have left them alone.

 

[narsnail]

I think the instructions for the Eibachs say you should cut the bump stops do they not?

 

[HuntR]

I have seen that somewhere once.

 

[doctorGolfR]

I think the instructions for the Eibachs say you should cut the bump stops do they not?

I have seen that somewhere once.

I looked around and it seems the instructions vary from Eibach depending on the application. I think trimming makes sense, though.

I started thinking about this more and noticed over the past couple of weeks that I would get a clunk from the rear every now and then at low speed turns going over certain bumps. I got concerned about maybe an improper install. Everything was replaced during the install so it didn't make a lot of sense.

I finally did the DCC re-calibration today and got to do some driving (posted my before/after values here: https://www.vwvortex.com/threads/what-did-you-do-to-your-golf-r-today.6926800/post-115990915) and that clunking has resolved. I wonder if I was sitting closer to the bump stops prior to re-calibration and now the system knows that the car's suspension travel is different?

Nonetheless, I'm still really happy with the springs/dampers and the re-calibration made things even smoother. What a fascinating car this continues to be!