Anyone fitted a highline reversing camera?

[gino2701]

Hello, i just purchased and install oem rear view highline camera for my golf 7. (Picture 1).
It is just seems a bit strange how it looks, because i got also passat b8 with same highline camera and on passat, it is less car bumper shown then on golf (picture 2)

 

[mr-fix]

I believe that's what the calibration is for - so the camera can position and crop the image according to the camera position relative to the ground.

 

[aegis]

Been looking into this retrofit and reading through the posts.
Would retrofitting a Highline camera into my Mk7 throw any warnings and dash lights if the car doesn't have any parking sensors for the other park assist features? I would prefer the highline camera symply for the dynamic lines and the image available while moving forward.

• 2015 GTI Autobahn - No parking sensors, therefore no parking sensor button at shifter.
• MIB II Discover Pro Unit 3G0 035 047 (Retrofit from a 2016 Golf R)
• 8" Display 5G0 919 606B

Obviously this would forego any function that would interact with the non-existant parking sensors, would the Highline cause any compatability problems?
Cheers,

 

[DV52]

@aegis: Hi.
Good question!! I'm not sure - but I suspect that you will need to set Byte 4, Bit 1=0 (see below) on the long-code string for the 6C module in the same fashion that Bit 2 =0 if the car doesn't have the Park-aid option
Don

 

[aegis]

@aegis: Hi.
Good question!! I'm not sure - but I suspect that you will need to set Byte 4, Bit 1=0 (see below) on the long-code string for the 6C module in the same fashion that Bit 2 =0 if the car doesn't have the Park-aid option
Don

Thanks Don, I will look into this!

 

[xfactory9025]

I connected a high version rear view camera. The front parking sensors do not appear when driving the vehicle forward, I think this is normal. Isn't this ridiculous? Is this also the case for those who originally purchased the vehicle with a camera?

 

[DV52]

I connected a high version rear view camera. The front parking sensors do not appear when driving the vehicle forward, I think this is normal. Isn't this ridiculous? Is this also the case for those who originally purchased the vehicle with a camera?

@xfactory9025: Hi.

Hmm........ why ("isn't this ridiculous")?

Think about the prerequisites for switching ON/OFF the reverse camera function (irrespective of whether it's a high RVC, or low RVC and regardless of whether the camera was factory-fitted, or retrofitted).

Clearly there is only ONE switch-ON requirement - reverse gear is selected with either ignition-ON, or engine-ON.
To switch-OFF the reverse camera, one of the following must happen

1. Manually:
   1. Press the "X" button on the reverse camera display screen
   2. Switch-OFF the ignition (screen will switch-OFF after a few seconds)
2. Automatically
   1. Deselect reverse gear (screen will switch-OFF after about 8 x seconds)
   2. Drive forwards faster than approximately 15 km/h (6 x "Bananas" in American units).

If the front parking sensors and RVC remained active "when driving the vehicle forward" - the driver would be constantly annoyed/distracted by warning tones as vehicles in front moved into/out-of the detection zone!!

Don

 

[xfactory9025]

@xfactory9025: Hi.

Hmm........ why ("isn't this ridiculous")?

Think about the prerequisites for switching ON/OFF the reverse camera function (irrespective of whether it's a high RVC, or low RVC and regardless of whether the camera was factory-fitted, or retrofitted).

Clearly there is only ONE switch-ON requirement - reverse gear is selected with either ignition-ON, or engine-ON.
To switch-OFF the reverse camera, one of the following must happen

1. Manually:
   1. Press the "X" button on the reverse camera display screen
   2. Switch-OFF the ignition (screen will switch-OFF after a few seconds)
2. Automatically
   1. Deselect reverse gear (screen will switch-OFF after about 8 x seconds)
   2. Drive forwards faster than approximately 15 km/h (6 x "Bananas" in American units).

If the front parking sensors and RVC remained active "when driving the vehicle forward" - the driver would be constantly annoyed/distracted by warning tones as vehicles in front moved into/out-of the detection zone!!

Don

No, I didn't mean that. If there is an obstacle in front of me when I drive forward without the rear view camera installed, the front parking sensors appear on the screen and give an audible warning. However, when the rear view camera is installed, the front parking sensors do not appear on the screen while driving forward, they only give an audible warning.


Also, what number fuse in the fuse box should I take the 12v connection of the backup camera? T30 and t15 fuses were mentioned in a forum. Is there any problem if I buy the t30? My camera is not an emblem, it is a camera mounted on the bumper.

 

[DV52]

No, I didn't mean that. If there is an obstacle in front of me when I drive forward without the rear view camera installed, the front parking sensors appear on the screen and give an audible warning. However, when the rear view camera is installed, the front parking sensors do not appear on the screen while driving forward, they only give an audible warning.

hmm......... As I said in my previous reply - if you select reverse gear, or you press the the parking button on the center console, the RVC/parking sensors operate. The equipment will keep operating (even if the car is moving forward) until the conditions listed in my previous reply are satisfied. This isn't conditional on the installation of a RVC - it's the same even if the car has just parking sensors

Also, what number fuse in the fuse box should I take the 12v connection of the backup camera? T30 and t15 fuses were mentioned in a forum. Is there any problem if I buy the t30? My camera is not an emblem, it is a camera mounted on the bumper.

Hmm......... OK, if "my camera is not an emblem" and the car is a mk7/mk7.5 - this RVC must be non-OEM !!

You are misunderstanding the terms T15/T30! Both these terms are defined in the industry standard DIN72552. The definitions are like this:

• T30= Battery rail voltage that is live regardless of the position of the ignition switch
• T15 = Battery voltage that is live ONLY when the ignition switch is ON, or engine running

As explained above, T30/T15 refers to the nature of the voltage supply to the camera - it is NOT a feature of the camera itself. So, you don't "buy the t30".

For OEM cameras, the factory fuse position is SC18 - which is a T30 voltage source

 

[xfactory9025]

My camera is not an emblem but an oem camera. 5Q0980556B. The fuse number 18 was empty. So I put it on fuse number 10. Will there be a problem? Does the energy remain active when the vehicle is locked? Also, I know that fuse number 18 is for the emblem camera, so I did not use it. When in reverse gear, the front and rear parking sensors work with both image and sound, but when going forward, the front parking sensor only works with image, there is no sound.

 

[DV52]

On the OEM Golf mk7/mk7.5 "C" fuse-block, ALL fuses from position 1 to position 31 are T30.

So, fuse SC10 is the same as SC18 -they are both T30 battery supplies. This means that the voltage for these fuses "remains active when the vehicle is locked"

Don

 

[xfactory9025]

hmm......... As I said in my previous reply - if you select reverse gear, or you press the the parking button on the center console, the RVC/parking sensors operate. The equipment will keep operating (even if the car is moving forward) until the conditions listed in my previous reply are satisfied. This isn't conditional on the installation of a RVC - it's the same even if the car has just parking sensors


Hmm......... OK, if "my camera is not an emblem" and the car is a mk7/mk7.5 - this RVC must be non-OEM !!

You are misunderstanding the terms T15/T30! Both these terms are defined in the industry standard DIN72552. The definitions are like this:

• T30= Battery rail voltage that is live regardless of the position of the ignition switch
• T15 = Battery voltage that is live ONLY when the ignition switch is ON, or engine running

As explained above, T30/T15 refers to the nature of the voltage supply to the camera - it is NOT a feature of the camera itself. So, you don't "buy the t30".

For OEM cameras, the factory fuse position is SC18 - which is a T15 voltage source

On the OEM Golf mk7/mk7.5 "C" fuse-block, ALL fuses from position 1 to position 31 are T30.

So, fuse SC10 is the same as SC18 -they are both T30 battery supplies. This means that the voltage for these fuses "remains active when the vehicle is locked"

Don

Wouldn't the camera drain the battery in this case? Or does it only start drawing energy in reverse gear?

 

[DV52]

Wouldn't the camera drain the battery in this case? Or does it only start drawing energy in reverse gear?

Simply because a fuse happens to be T30, doesn't mean that connected circuits are "drawing energy" when the ignition is off. In fact, quite the opposite - the circuit designers on the VW mother-ship are painfully aware of the dangers of draining the battery for T30 circuits. So care is taken on EVERY factory T30 circuit not to draw even modest amperes when ignition is OFF.

The problems start when car owners retrofit after-market equipment that is designed for T15 operation to T30 fuses - you won't (shouldn't) find this problem with factory OEM T30 circuits

Don

 

[xfactory9025]

Simply because a fuse happens to be T30, doesn't mean that connected circuits are "drawing energy" when the ignition is off. In fact, quite the opposite - the circuit designers on the VW mother-ship are painfully aware of the dangers of draining the battery for T30 circuits. So care is taken on EVERY factory T30 circuit not to draw even modest amperes when ignition is OFF.

The problems start when car owners retrofit after-market equipment that is designed for T15 operation to T30 fuses - you won't (shouldn't) find this problem with factory OEM T30 circuits

Don

In another forum, they said that it would be safer if you get the energy from the red cable behind the unit, not from the fuse. Once the vehicle is locked, its power is cut off. Having constant power in the camera reduces the life of the camera. do you think this is true?

 

[Meesters]

No, I didn't mean that. If there is an obstacle in front of me when I drive forward without the rear view camera installed, the front parking sensors appear on the screen and give an audible warning. However, when the rear view camera is installed, the front parking sensors do not appear on the screen while driving forward, they only give an audible warning.


Also, what number fuse in the fuse box should I take the 12v connection of the backup camera? T30 and t15 fuses were mentioned in a forum. Is there any problem if I buy the t30? My camera is not an emblem, it is a camera mounted on the bumper.

Hi xfactory9025

I have upgraded from low to highline cam. When driving forward at low speed and the sensors pick up something close, they appear on screen and give audible warning. So I think it could be coding. Could also be calibration, I have same cam as you(wich is not factory for Golf 7), but installed in the emblem. It was hard to get it calibrated, but I did it, afterwards some functions did work slight different (say normal again). I think, because you installed it in a place way off, calibration will be impossible.

So, maybe you could somehow upload coding, and confirm that cam is maybe already calibrated, that way we could look in to this.