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Aggressive wheel fitment thread/stance

gyro7.5

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Hey everyone. New here, but here's my current set up. CE28N 18x8.5+52. They're 5x114.3 with 225/40/18 tires. Bagged and tucking.
I have some TE37's otw for this coming season. 18x9+27 in 5x112. Judging by all my research I'll most likely run the 225/40 tires. I would really love to tuck some 255/35's though. I haven't quite found any info on that.
Just installed 034 ball joints. Currently getting about -2 front and -3 in the rear at ride height.

I figured with a tad bit more front camber I could tuck the 255/35's, but I will have to make sure I am not rubbing the front bags.
Fronts already rolled and slightly bacon'd :cautious:



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ChristopherNeil

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San Diego
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You're gonna need a *lot* of work if you're trying to get 255s on an 18x9 +27 to tuck. Like -4.5ish camber plus wide fenders. If you stick with 225s, you'll have arguably the worst ride quality and really be testing that inner barrel strength over potholes.
 

El_bigote_AJ

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Las Vegas
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2019 GTI bunny
Hey everyone. New here, but here's my current set up. CE28N 18x8.5+52. They're 5x114.3 with 225/40/18 tires. Bagged and tucking.
I have some TE37's otw for this coming season. 18x9+27 in 5x112. Judging by all my research I'll most likely run the 225/40 tires. I would really love to tuck some 255/35's though. I haven't quite found any info on that.
Just installed 034 ball joints. Currently getting about -2 front and -3 in the rear at ride height.

I figured with a tad bit more front camber I could tuck the 255/35's, but I will have to make sure I am not rubbing the front bags.
Fronts already rolled and slightly bacon'd :cautious:



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You're gonna need a *lot* of work if you're trying to get 255s on an 18x9 +27 to tuck. Like -4.5ish camber plus wide fenders. If you stick with 225s, you'll have arguably the worst ride quality and really be testing that inner barrel strength over potholes.

The real issue is trying to be meaty and still air out low, it takes a lot of static camber because once you get the fender to the tire the camber curve starts going the opposite way and will start to move towards positive and tighten up the gap.

The balljoints help but also keep in mind they push the “offset” view out some as well. If you are running typical double below large bags you cannot run anything more than -4 static camber without those bags rubbing.


Depending on the tire selection a 225 on a 9” is very minimal stretch… below are rears 235 on 9.5” and fronts 265 on 10.5”s. On my Tiguan I have a 255 on 10.5” and that’s still considered stage 1 stretch and yes you can feel it’s a rougher stretched ride on those but it’s not murderous or stressful.

I think with a 225 you still are going to need bigger fenders and more importantly to modify the connection tab and bumper…

10.5 et30 front and 9.5 et 22 on the rear* had to raise my max air out by like 1/2” to fit this aggressive of a fitment and that’s with bigger fenders,balljoints, and slim bellow air bags.


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balanced totem

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Looking too lose some weight in my summer/track setup (rotiform buc-m 19x8.5 et45 (30lbs) with 235/35/19 ps4s) by switching to some neuspeed rse11r on a 18x9.0 et40 (20lbs) setup. but I haven't pulled the trigger yet because don't want to go far past flush or cause rubbing. Has anyone run my proposed wheel setup and if so how did it turn out? I feel like the 18x8.5et45 or 18x9et45 sizes are more popular for this car but theres a decent sale on the et40s...

Also important: I'm a little lower on some bilstein b16s but that is the only relevant suspension mod


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El_bigote_AJ

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2019 GTI bunny
It’s going to come down to tire size selection at the fronts since your pretty low, while the wheel face is going to flush more to the fenders (11mm) you’ll probably be safest going with the 235/40/18 tire on that 9” esp cause your b16s don’t have camber plates (you could do the euro sport camber pucks to gain some - camber and clearance, but that’s more involved than just a wheel swap)

235 on a 18x9 won’t have bad stretch either esp when you’re used to a 19” side wall look too.
 

Upshotbravo

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Hi All…

Just got a great deal on some minty 19x9 RSe10s et 50 and was wondering what tire size to run in order to avoid rubbing?
This is a factory ride height 2019 golf R.

Thx!
 
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khail19

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Reno NV
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Mk7 GTI
Hi All…

Just got a great deal on some minty 19x9 RSe10s and was wondering what tire size to run in order to avoid rubbing?
This is a factory ride height 2019 golf R.

Thx!

Are you planning on changing ride height in the future? Just asking since you are posting in the aggressive fitment thread. Can't really answer if you will rub without knowing the offset of your wheels.

225/35 will be closest to stock diameter, but a bit stretched on a 9" wide wheel. Personally I'd go 235/35 or even 245/35, less stretch and a little extra taller to fill out the wheel gap. Just depends on the look you are after.
 

Upshotbravo

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Are you planning on changing ride height in the future? Just asking since you are posting in the aggressive fitment thread. Can't really answer if you will rub without knowing the offset of your wheels.

225/35 will be closest to stock diameter, but a bit stretched on a 9" wide wheel. Personally I'd go 235/35 or even 245/35, less stretch and a little extra taller to fill out the wheel gap. Just depends on the look you are after.
Hi, sorry forgot to add the offset, theyre et50s

Im unlikely to alter the ride height in the future. If i do, it will be very limited.
 

ryandm1984

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Hey all, I ordered some Rohana RC7’s 19x9.5 et33 225/35 all around to change the setup to not such a super aggressive stretch. I will post pics once I get them delivered and on the car. The photos are of the current setup, WCI 3pc 18x9.5 et20 (15mm spacer) 205/40 up front, and 18x10 et5 225/35 rear. Car is on airlift 3P. This is my show car and not daily, but I’m tired of dealing with massive stretch, anyone looking to do something similar, it’s somewhat of a pain.

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ryandm1984

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Hey all, I ordered some Rohana RC7’s 19x9.5 et33 225/35 all around to change the setup to not such a super aggressive stretch. I will post pics once I get them delivered and on the car. The photos are of the current setup, WCI 3pc 18x9.5 et20 (15mm spacer) 205/40 up front, and 18x10 et5 225/35 rear. Car is on airlift 3P. This is my show car and not daily, but I’m tired of dealing with massive stretch, anyone looking to do something similar, it’s somewhat of a pain.

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EpicTech

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Finally got my new wheels on, car has been sitting for a while so it’s a little dirty. 19x9.5 et33 w 15mm spacers all around
How the hell did you get that to fit? I originally did 18x 8.5 +35 and in the front the wheels wouldnt even tuck inside the fenders where I could lower the car back onto the ground.
 

Maiden69

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How the hell did you get that to fit? I originally did 18x 8.5 +35 and in the front the wheels wouldnt even tuck inside the fenders where I could lower the car back onto the ground.
You can't notice the amount of negative camber? That's the only way. I have 8.5" et 42 with 245/40/18 MPS4S on stock camber and they barely rub on heavy dips. Going with 9" et 45 or 48 and 255/35/18 with 034 Camster plates when I lower it. Should have no issues with the added camber from the plates. IMO, in a car with any decent amount of power you want the most tire touching the ground, heavy camber greatly reduces the amount of tire patch contact.
 

EpicTech

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You can't notice the amount of negative camber? That's the only way. I have 8.5" et 42 with 245/40/18 MPS4S on stock camber and they barely rub on heavy dips. Going with 9" et 45 or 48 and 255/35/18 with 034 Camster plates when I lower it. Should have no issues with the added camber from the plates. IMO, in a car with any decent amount of power you want the most tire touching the ground, heavy camber greatly reduces the amount of tire patch contact.
I wasnt really looking at the neg camber, I saw wheel specs and immediately thought wtf. I already know it doesnt fit UNLESS you have a good bit of neg camber going on. Like you said and I agree, this is not ideal as you decrease the contact patch. I know my car is using all of the 235 width I have afforded it, and that ho still breaks loose if I hammer it. I said elsewhere but with my 18x8.5 +45 Rays wheels, they are rubbing a lot in the rear because I went with a taller sidewall. Was going to do the same in the front but they dont fit. When the car returns from the shop I intend to raise the coilovers about an inch, add in Koni Special Actives in the rear, and then see what everything looks like. Yes I know lower car is cooler, but I want to get away from bust-the-oil pan- on shitty roads phobia.
 

Maiden69

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I said elsewhere but with my 18x8.5 +45 Rays wheels, they are rubbing a lot in the rear because I went with a taller sidewall.
What size tire you are using? And where are they rubbing? inside?

I have 245/40/18 MPS4S and they didn't rub anywhere with my 18x8.5 et42, and now I am also running a 5mm spacer to bring them out almost flush with the fender and still no rubbing there at all, even when I was towing a little over 2k pounds including the trailer.

I bought this spacers to eliminate the hub centering ring and spacer I had before. They don't carry the 5mm anymore, but have a 3mm now.
 
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