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2019 GTI DSG 1st gear hangs

Jrb5

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
AZ
2019 GTI rabbit edition
7 speed dsg
Unitronic Stage 1 TCU/ECU since 8k miles
Currently 16k miles

EDIT - This happened once a few weeks ago, and then twice the evening i posted this during a sub 5 mile drive...

First gear has either shifted at 3500 rpm or continued all the way to nearly red line. This was in D and while slowly accelerating. It was also intermittent and could not be replicated on demand. Vehicle was still warming up. Coolant was reading at operating temp, oil temp was 140ish.

I could always force it into 2nd if I put it in manual and shifted up using the paddles or shifter when it was hanging in first.

Other gears are not hanging, reverse works fine.

I also noticed that right off the line when 1st gear would hang, the car will hesitate a little and buck for a short moment, after that I will have to shift for it to go into 2nd. So far, if it doesn't hesitate, it will shift fine (around 2k rpm).

I have not scanned for codes yet. This is my first DSG after driving a mk6 6spd manual so I am not too familiar with it. I've researched so far that sometimes a DSG recalibration can be done via OBD 11.

Also read for another DSG owner a dirty fuel filter caused similar issues.

Any input is appreciated.
 
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Jrb5

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
AZ
OBD Eleven Dump



OBDeleven data log

Date: 2020-11-11 23:14

Car: Volkswagen Golf GTI
Year: 2019
Body type: 5-dr hatchback
Engine: DKFA
Mileage: 27001 KM

---------------------------------------------------------------
01 Engine

System description: 2.0l R4 TFSI
Software number: 5G0906259Q
Software version: 0002
Hardware number: 06K907425J
Hardware version: H13
ODX name: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259Q
ODX version: 001003
Long coding: 092500124424012F1000

Trouble codes:
U010100 - Lost Communication with TCM
Intermittent


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02 Transmission

System description: GSG DQ381
Software number: 0GC300020G
Software version: 2404
Hardware number: 0GC927711H
Hardware version: H06
ODX name: EV_TCMDQ381061
ODX version: 001���
Long coding: 0014

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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03 Brakes

System description: ESC
Software number: 5Q0614517DR
Software version: 0108
Hardware number: 5Q0614517BM
Hardware version: H45
Serial number: 53118000000029
ODX name: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB
ODX version: 038007
Long coding: 01FA6BA1502021748080020960C86880D60A84014006167610415051D0894B0B0000000012121212B835351919323200

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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08 Air Conditioning

System description: AC Manuell
Software number: 5GM907426G
Software version: 2001
Hardware number: 5GM907426G
Hardware version: H03
ODX name: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X
ODX version: 004134
Long coding: 00020004200110001000000000000006

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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09 Central Electrics

System description: BCM PQ37BOSCH
Software number: 5Q0937087BA
Software version: 0265
Hardware number: 5Q0937087BA
Hardware version: 036
Serial number: C864301118002H
ODX name: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc
ODX version: 019001
Long coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Subsystems:
System description: WWS 181004
Software version: 0551
Hardware version: 043
Serial number: 97022066181016001619
Long coding: 0E4DDD

System description: RLS
Software version: 0105
Hardware version: 050
Serial number: S3Y18M09D26H17M43S49
Long coding: 00A8DD

System description: Lenks.Modul
Software version: 0170
Hardware version: H03
Serial number: 0300131220180C203205

Trouble codes:
U112100 - Databus missing message
Intermittent
B147A18 - Remote key 2 Voltage too low
static


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13 Adaptive Cruise Control

System description: ACC BOSCH MQB
Software number: 5Q0907572P
Software version: 0682
Hardware number: 3QF907572A
Hardware version: H11
ODX name: EV_ACCBOSCHVW416
ODX version: 002008
Long coding: 3500008101FFC728949C810500401600000000000000000004

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
15 Airbag

System description: AirbagVW20
Software number: 5Q0959655J
Software version: 0830
Hardware number: 5Q0959655J
Hardware version: 010
Serial number: 003GCR0ALNB.
ODX name: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X
ODX version: 002144
Long coding: 8CCCFC00000000005000001AC24800000065

Subsystems:
System description: BF-Gewichtss.
Software version: 0022
Hardware version: H13
Serial number: IBH00000000000AON2P1
Long coding: 30305A

System description: SideSensor_Df
Software version: 0887
Hardware version: 001
Serial number: 35700000000368202430
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: SideSensor_Pf
Software version: 0887
Hardware version: 001
Serial number: 3580000000020850043
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: SideSensor_Dr
Software version: 6149
Hardware version: 004
Serial number: 3510001202B76CE1747/
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: SideSensor_Pr
Software version: 6149
Hardware version: 004
Serial number: 3520001242B70F63D7E9
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: FrontSensor_D
Software version: 6149
Hardware version: 003
Serial number: 3550001AF2C6D4B1A3ET
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: FrontSensor_P
Software version: 6149
Hardware version: 003
Serial number: 3560001AF2C6D4B1961J
Long coding: 2D2D2D

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
17 Dashboard

System description: KOMBI
Software number: 5G1920856D
Software version: 2500
Hardware number: 5G1920856D
Hardware version: 351
ODX name: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB
ODX version: 009065
Long coding: 0BAD091AA988CF0502882A095000000020000000

Trouble codes:
U111000 - Function restriction due to communication interruption
Intermittent


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19 Gateway

System description: GW MQB High
Software number: 3Q0907530AA
Software version: 5366
Hardware number: 3Q0907530C
Hardware version: 521
Serial number: 02121800840549
ODX name: EV_GatewNF
ODX version: 013025
Long coding: 030100047F085900FB00006B1C0F00010001070000000000000000000000

Subsystems:
System description: 0-00-0d-00-04

System description: J367-BDMHella
Software version: 9070
Hardware version: H10
Serial number: 4886326100

System description: E221__MFL-DC1
Software version: 0052
Hardware version: H11
Serial number: 29180002482800098424
Long coding: 29FFFF

Trouble codes:
U101E00 - Headlamp range control module No communication
Intermittent
U140600 - Static current too high
Intermittent


---------------------------------------------------------------
29 Light Control Left

System description: LCM_MLBevo
Software number: 8V0907399D
Software version: 0014
Hardware number: 8V0907399D
Hardware version: H08
ODX name: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736
ODX version: 001012

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
2B Steering Column Lock

System description: ELV-MQBB
Software number: 2Q0905861A
Software version: 0021
Hardware number: 2Q0905861A
Hardware version: H07
Serial number: 18000331919006
ODX name: EV_ELVMarqMQBA0
ODX version: 002002
Long coding: 0800000000000000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
32 Lock Electronics

System description: Quersperre
Software number: 0CQ907554P
Software version: 8043
Hardware number: 0CQ907554P
Hardware version: H52
Serial number: HA1-00013.08.1800010262
ODX name: EV_LockElectHA1VW37X
ODX version: 001007
Long coding: 0001

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
39 Light Control Right

System description: LCM_MLBevo
Software number: 8V0907399D
Software version: 0014
Hardware number: 8V0907399D
Hardware version: H08
ODX name: EV_LCMRightHELLAAU736
ODX version: 001012

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
3C Lane Change Assistant Right

System description: HRE_Master
Software number: 5Q0907686C
Software version: 0081
Hardware number: 5Q0907686C
Hardware version: H12
Serial number: 0500144009
ODX name: EV_HREntryHella
ODX version: 001028
Long coding: 01011103

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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42 Driver Door

System description: TSG FS
Software number: 5Q4959593M
Software version: 0247
Hardware number: 5Q4959593F
Hardware version: 006
Serial number: 42038832901903
ODX name: EV_DCU2DriveSideMAXHCONT
ODX version: 001005
Long coding: 003E13200000040000000000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
44 Steering Assistance

System description: EPS_MQB_ZFLS
Software number: 5QN909144A
Software version: 5081
Hardware number: 5QN909144A
Hardware version: 507
ODX name: EV_SteerAssisMQB
ODX version: 015157
Long coding: 811F0000

Trouble codes:
U112100 - Databus missing message
Intermittent
U112100 - Databus missing message
Intermittent
U112100 - Databus missing message
Intermittent


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4B Multifunction Module

System description: FCM MQB Low
Software number: 3Q0907338C
Software version: 0345
Hardware number: 3Q0907338C
Hardware version: 002
Serial number: 14111800841679
ODX name: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X
ODX version: 002006
Long coding: 000000050900214A01110F00030000000000000000000000000000000000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
52 Passenger Door

System description: TSG BFS
Software number: 5Q4959592M
Software version: 0247
Hardware number: 5Q4959592F
Hardware version: 006
Serial number: 46038831800634
ODX name: EV_DCU2PasseSideMAXHCONT
ODX version: 001005
Long coding: 003E13200C00040000000000

Trouble codes:
B11FA29 - Position sensor for mirror adjustment Implausible signal
static


---------------------------------------------------------------
5F Multimedia

System description: MU-E--ER
Software number: 5G6035868
Software version: 8742
Hardware number: 5G6035868
Hardware version: 695
Serial number: 09101800010743
ODX name: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE
ODX version: 001041
Long coding: 02730000BE00000041220001001000009F0003D40000010000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
A9 Structure Borne Sound

System description: SAS-GEN 2
Software number: 5G0907159G
Software version: 0001
Hardware number: 4H0907159A
Hardware version: H07
Serial number: 181005202611
ODX name: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X
ODX version: 003010

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
B7 Start System Interface

System description: VWKESSYMQB
Software number: 3Q0959435L
Software version: 1204
Hardware number: 3Q0959435L
Hardware version: 037
Serial number: 0499911485
ODX name: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB
ODX version: 004046
Long coding: 132C0C0723

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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D6 LED Module Left

System description: LED1L
Software number: 7P5941572A
Software version: 0002
Hardware number: 7P5941572A
Hardware version: H06
ODX name: EV_LEDMinMaxL_KEBODAVW481
ODX version: 001003

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
D7 LED Module Right

System description: LED1R
Software number: 7P5941572A
Software version: 0002
Hardware number: 7P5941572A
Hardware version: H06
ODX name: EV_LEDMinMaxR_KEBODAVW481
ODX version: 001003

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
 

jimlloyd40

Autocross Champion
Location
Phoenix
Car(s)
2018 SE DSG
You're going to have to leave it at the dealer overnight so they can experience it in the morning.
 

Jrb5

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
AZ
Edited my post above as i typed it late in the evening as it was a little misleading. This happened once a few weeks ago, and then twice last night during a short sub 5 mile trip.
Today driving around for 20 min or so stopping and going it happened 0 times.

Double Edit - just spoke with a VW service rep at VW in North Scottsdale. Basically I need to wait for a code to be thrown or it is reproducible which makes sense. Could have been a once off thing or me leaning on the shifter just enough for it to think it was in sport or something weird.
 
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shovelhd

Autocross Champion
Location
Western MA
Your DSG warranty is at risk due to the TCU tune. Avoid the dealer unless you are prepared to pay out of pocket.

Have you disconnected or replaced the battery lately? The gateway codes can sometimes be triggered by this. I'd use your OBD11 to clear all the codes, and start scanning regularly.
 

Jrb5

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
AZ
Yes I am aware of the risks related to warranty coverage and tunes.

No for battery disconnection or replacement.
 

jimlloyd40

Autocross Champion
Location
Phoenix
Car(s)
2018 SE DSG
Edited my post above as i typed it late in the evening as it was a little misleading. This happened once a few weeks ago, and then twice last night during a short sub 5 mile trip.
Today driving around for 20 min or so stopping and going it happened 0 times.

Double Edit - just spoke with a VW service rep at VW in North Scottsdale. Basically I need to wait for a code to be thrown or it is reproducible which makes sense. Could have been a once off thing or me leaning on the shifter just enough for it to think it was in sport or something weird.

When it happened last night was the car fully warmed up?
Were you getting on it and it trans fluid wasn't up to temperature?
 

Jrb5

Passed Driver's Ed
Location
AZ
Was not getting on it, was accelerating with traffic from a stop at a red light. Oil was at around 140-180 during the 2 times it happened last night.

Does the transfluid heat up about 1:1 with engine oil? I'd assume it is a little slower.
 

jimlloyd40

Autocross Champion
Location
Phoenix
Car(s)
2018 SE DSG
Was not getting on it, was accelerating with traffic from a stop at a red light. Oil was at around 140-180 during the 2 times it happened last night.

Does the transfluid heat up about 1:1 with engine oil? I'd assume it is a little slower.

Don't know but I would guess that the engine oil and trans fluid heat up about the same. But if the engine oil was the temperature you said then the trans shouldn't have done that.
 
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