jimlloyd40
Autocross Champion
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- Phoenix
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- 2018 SE DSG
The only difference with the idle when the AC is on is the idle speed comes up about 100 RPM. It should still idle smoothly.
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2019 GTI (6MT USA) Engine hesitation
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The only difference with the idle when the AC is on is the idle speed comes up about 100 RPM. It should still idle smoothly.
Have them make sure your car has the 24D ecu patch installed. This is a known issue.
Well, the problem is back again...
As soon as it got hot outside, the engine starts hesitating. I had both of the ECU patches done (the one in November 2019 and the latest one), and was good for a little while, then bang -- horrendous again.
I appreciate what everyone has been saying about upgrading the intercooler, engine tunes, etc -- but there is NO WAY I am going to jeopardize my warranty on this vehicle: On my 2019 vehicle with 19K miles, I've had the following:
Replace hatch shock support (The day I purchased the car!)
Replace Infotainment unit when a crack in the face developed (first WEEK owning the car)
Replace thermostat housing (18K miles)
Four trips to dealer for hesitation problem -- NO CODES, NO PROBLEM!
So... I wrote a letter to VWOA's EVP for sales. Explained that I've driven over 20 VWs on three continents over the past 40 years, and I've HAD IT with this lemon.
Got a response today from VW Customer cares -- they want to book me an appointment with the dealer to "work with me." I've kind of resolved myself to just trading it for a Mk.8, but now I wonder...
Anybody have any experiences with these VWOA facilitated service reviews? Or am I just on a quixotic mission for a working car at this point? I'm tempted to just give it to the dealer and say, keep it until you find SOMETHING, since I'm working from home and don't need a daily driver.
(sorry for the rant)
As soon as it got hot outside, the engine starts hesitating. I had both of the ECU patches done (the one in November 2019 and the latest one), and was good for a little while, then bang -- horrendous again.
I appreciate what everyone has been saying about upgrading the intercooler, engine tunes, etc -- but there is NO WAY I am going to jeopardize my warranty on this vehicle: On my 2019 vehicle with 19K miles, I've had the following:
Replace hatch shock support (The day I purchased the car!)
Replace Infotainment unit when a crack in the face developed (first WEEK owning the car)
Replace thermostat housing (18K miles)
Four trips to dealer for hesitation problem -- NO CODES, NO PROBLEM!
So... I wrote a letter to VWOA's EVP for sales. Explained that I've driven over 20 VWs on three continents over the past 40 years, and I've HAD IT with this lemon.
Got a response today from VW Customer cares -- they want to book me an appointment with the dealer to "work with me." I've kind of resolved myself to just trading it for a Mk.8, but now I wonder...
Anybody have any experiences with these VWOA facilitated service reviews? Or am I just on a quixotic mission for a working car at this point? I'm tempted to just give it to the dealer and say, keep it until you find SOMETHING, since I'm working from home and don't need a daily driver.
(sorry for the rant)
I can't fathom suffering with a car for another XX,XXX miles just to maybe have a warranty available if something happens to break that actually registers as broken and can be fixed. Warranty paranoia is your personal decision, but you're banking on several years of your life here and thousands of unhappy miles driven on the off chance something catastrophic happens to the powertrain that you need a warranty for.
Your risk aversion is your business, going on your recommendation of no mods that void warranty, you have two options.
1. Drive the car until the warranty expires and then fix it with a tune.
2. Get rid of the car
You say you've been dealing with VW for 40 years. You are an older gentleman, are the factory warranty rules worth your time of day?
VWoA has can be exceptional, especially if you push. Plenty of great stories from members here who had their issues resolved with little effort once it went this far. Push for a replacement vehicle.
Did you try thicker oil?
Or check the o2 sensors for fouling?
sloopercat
Go Kart Newbie
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- Knoxville
Well, just experienced this on my 2019. It felt like hitting boost cut. The car bucked hard twice when I pulled out to pass somebody. I do not have the second ECU done. Will see what they say when I bring it in for the 20K service. I have TCDS and there are no codes stored, which seems odd with such a violent event. This seems like a safety issue. Probably not a bad idea to report it to the NTSB.
grapesmith
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- Fort Lauderdale, FL
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- 2019 GTI 6MT
First time poster - I've been searching high and low for confirmation that I'm not crazy. Glad to know (for my sanity, unfortunate otherwise) that there are others experiencing the same thing.
I think things have been worse after the 24FX update. Still getting idle roughness that shakes the car and hesitation in acceleration. It's just not enjoyable to drive like this.
I've got an appointment scheduled for Friday, but I'm not expecting much. 2 software updates and a replaced LPFP, but the problem still remains... it just don't inspire any confidence that they know what the cause is or how to fix it.
I think things have been worse after the 24FX update. Still getting idle roughness that shakes the car and hesitation in acceleration. It's just not enjoyable to drive like this.
I've got an appointment scheduled for Friday, but I'm not expecting much. 2 software updates and a replaced LPFP, but the problem still remains... it just don't inspire any confidence that they know what the cause is or how to fix it.
jimlloyd40
Autocross Champion
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- Phoenix
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- 2018 SE DSG
Welcome to the forum. Good luck with your appointment.
grapesmith
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- Fort Lauderdale, FL
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- 2019 GTI 6MT
My service advisor called and said the problem was bad fuel and that an additive cleared up the problem.
I’m skeptical - I’ve been using premium at Mobil / Shell / Chevron. The roughness has been persistent since the day I bought the car new.
Is fuel sensitivity common with GTIs? Do I need to be using an additive “monthly” as my SA suggested?
Anyone else with similar problems getting the same answer?
I’m skeptical - I’ve been using premium at Mobil / Shell / Chevron. The roughness has been persistent since the day I bought the car new.
Is fuel sensitivity common with GTIs? Do I need to be using an additive “monthly” as my SA suggested?
Anyone else with similar problems getting the same answer?
jimlloyd40
Autocross Champion
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- Phoenix
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- 2018 SE DSG
It wouldn't hurt to use a bottle of Chevron Techron every 5th tank or so. Helps keep the injectors clean.
I think he's fos.
Agree.
Strange Mud
Autocross Champion
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fuel from 3 different places since day one.....yeah, it ain't the fuel. Once in a while I would say OK, but not often. Oh yeah, I run regular.
I would see what this tank does (with the miracle fluid). But you should not have to add treatment, heck I bet VW doesn't recommend it. Just for kicks ask the service advisor to put in writing that the recommended "fix" is fuel treatment monthly.
nice use of search!
Mud
I would see what this tank does (with the miracle fluid). But you should not have to add treatment, heck I bet VW doesn't recommend it. Just for kicks ask the service advisor to put in writing that the recommended "fix" is fuel treatment monthly.
nice use of search!
Mud
sloopercat
Go Kart Newbie
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- Knoxville
The only scenario where I could see fuel being an issue is if there is water in it. That’s possible with ethanol fuel.