M3bs1
Go Kart Champion
- Location
- North Augusta SC
Well done, Scrapin 240. I bet you hurt some feelings at that event.
nice!!! so many VW's and so many oryx white! Is it my eyes or is the second white one from the left still got the front rotors glowing red?We all should do ride-alongs next time. You and your group all drove great. We can all learn a few things from each other. It was a really fun day, and I think the whole V-dub group stood our ground pretty well. By the end of the day I think there were a number of BMW drivers who may have been wondering why they spent all that extra money.
I do quite a lot of events, and the most R's I've ever seen at an event were two in addition to mine. At Lime Rock we had 4 R's and a GTi. Rare photo at a non-VW event...
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Must be a reflection off of the GTI. No way would rotors still be glowing after getting into the paddock.nice!!! so many VW's and so many oryx white! Is it my eyes or is the second white one from the left still got the front rotors glowing red?
nice!!! so many VW's and so many oryx white! Is it my eyes or is the second white one from the left still got the front rotors glowing red?
Yeah thats a hell of an improvement in 1 day. You must be exiting oak tree really fast to hit that speed on the back straight since you don't have a whole lot of power. If you got better brakes and were able to stop at the 2.5 or 3 markers you can definitely take another 1.5 seconds off that time. Is there a mod list on you somewhere im missing?Thanks!
It was my first time there, so I went from 2:23 first time out to 2:11.4+ the next day .... there are a couple of turns that I can carry better speed, and can definitely take the uphill esses a little faster maybe. Top speed on the back straight was 144
the car needs more brake, which I am addressing, and would do better with a some higher spring rates, especially the rear. I also use stock sizing rubber 225s...not sure if I would benefit from wider tires or not, since I would have to raise the car, so I don't really want to mess too much which the way it is setup right now. I really need to work on myself more.
There's definitely another 2 seconds I think in there. I was just happy to go from 2:23 day one to 2:11+ on day 2, where we only got a total of 6 laps, 3 laps a session to put in a hot lap.Yeah thats a hell of an improvement in 1 day. You must be exiting oak tree really fast to hit that speed on the back straight since you don't have a whole lot of power. If you got better brakes and were able to stop at the 2.5 or 3 markers you can definitely take another 1.5 seconds off that time. Is there a mod list on you somewhere im missing?
Well my ones caught fire in impoundMust be a reflection off of the GTI. No way would rotors still be glowing after getting into the paddock.
Had a frustrating but overall good day at Laguna Seca yesterday. First two sessions were basically throwaways because of so much traffic, couldn't get any clean laps in. Third and fourth sessions opened up a bit more but then I ran into issues with the car cutting power going uphill towards T7 (Corkscrew). You can hear me expressing my frustration in the video below lol. I'm not sure if it was heat soak (only 75F and oil temp was 260F so not too hot?) or bad gas but the car was definitely slightly down on power today. This lap was a 1:46 without traffic at the end, so I know high/mid 1:46s are in reach. The head coach at my event thinks car can do 1:45 and I agree. Till next time!
Diggs24 (who knows these engines very well) mentioned to me: "Probably running out of fuel if it's dumping fuel to keep things cool. Stock ECU is pretty aggressive in that regards and if you're running any boost through the JB4 that takes away fueling headroom." - so that is my predominant theory at the moment. That hill is definitely the most demanding part of the track for the motor.Very nice lap. I wonder where you think you can improve to get the extra time you claim possible.
The power issues up the hill could also be transmission fluid or some other kind of overheating. Do you have data logs? Also, this is where people saw a difference when they installed a catch can.
Diggs24 (who knows these engines very well) mentioned to me: "Probably running out of fuel if it's dumping fuel to keep things cool. Stock ECU is pretty aggressive in that regards and if you're running any boost through the JB4 that takes away fueling headroom." - so that is my predominant theory at the moment. That hill is definitely the most demanding part of the track for the motor.
As for time saving I see it as a combo of two major issues and a few small tweaks to my lap. Major issue one is the lack of power up towards T7. I am losing probably 2 or 3 10ths due to the car cutting power there. Second major issue here was T11. I broke early to be cautious of the guy in front and had a very compromised exit as well. Comparing the data to another 1:47.58 lap I did, I am .6s slower through that sector. So add those two things together and you get a 1:46.6.
So that is the remedy then to avoid this? Curious to learn from you
As FYI, I got power cut-off exactly at the same place before. My resolution has been to make sure I up-shift at 6k rpm instead of 6500. Also take T6 slightly slower. Seems to work thus far. If it did not, I would have tried a catch can.
I understand the time saved from power and T11 slow down. But would be very interesting how much faster you can go around the track and how you think about it. Lots leanings there from your answer for the rest of us
Interesting that you had the same power issue. I normally shift around 6000-6250 but tend to rev out 3rd a little more as 4th is so long. The only solution I can think of to remedy this issue is just better cooling. Maybe I need to revise my air intake setup a bit. I do not have logs unfortunately.
Here is a really really good breakdown of Laguna Seca by a pro driver - helped me a lot in preparation for yesterday’s session.
But better cooling on what? Probably cheaper to get an obd reader and just log some data with your phone like DSG temp, oil temp, intakes temp, coolant temp to help pinpoint the issue.
I have seen the 360 video. But it is on a rear wheel car, I think an M3. I used to have a rear wheel car and my track driving is still affected by the habits I developed driving it. The GTI behaves differently and needs different lines. It is very rare and very useful to see good GTI driver videos on tracks I know
Great video and summary. I got a lot of time left on the table on LS as well.Interesting that you had the same power issue. I normally shift around 6000-6250 but tend to rev out 3rd a little more as 4th is so long. The only solution I can think of to remedy this issue is just better cooling. Maybe I need to revise my air intake setup a bit. I do not have logs unfortunately.
Here is a really really good breakdown of Laguna Seca by a pro driver - helped me a lot in preparation for yesterday’s session.
Below are the notes I wrote for myself in preparation:
Laguna Seca 4/18 Prep:
-Flat turn 1
-Brake just before 3 board
-Start angling in/trail brake between 1/2 board towards first apex (“extend straightaway”)
-Rotate and on power as fast as possible
-Turn 3: turn in at last white marker, apex on middle/back of yellow curb
-Turn 4: turn in at last white marker, apex far side yellow curb, on power at apex
-Turn 5: brake at 3 board, turn in on last white curb marker, apex backside yellow board, on power as early as possible
-Turn 6: turn in last white marker on curb, on power after car compresses
-Corkscrew: all the way left, brake before 3, lighter brake pressure over crest turning slightly right to setup entrance, hard on brakes after car settles. Use all curb on left, aim for second big tree from left.
-Turn 9: line up under “e” in Weathertech, slightly early apex, use all track
-Turn 10: downshift to 3rd, turn in slightly before end of curb, early on power
-Turn 11: brake at 3, turn in on last white marker, slightly late apex, on power as early as possible, use all turf on exit