What is 0-60 APR Stage 1?

[Diggs24]

More power
Well sorted traction control
245 Summer tires

You can hit 5.1 in a GTI with the above. Move the power band out so it doesn't spike torque at 3000rpm and break the tires loose.

 

[Ghost GTI]

More power
Well sorted traction control
245 Summer tires

You can hit 5.1 in a GTI with the above. Move the power band out so it doesn't spike torque at 3000rpm and break the tires loose.

Aerodynamics too, no?

 

[Diggs24]

To 60? Nah.

 

[Ridebjj]

Whenever I wonder about the limits of FWD cars, I think of the Civic Type R - it has similar factory specs to a Stage 1 GTI, yet somehow it can achieve about 5.1 seconds 0-60. Only edge I can think of is it has really wide tires. Any thoughts as to what makes the Type-R so much faster than the GTI?

Riiiise, Zombie thread.... Riiiiiiissseeeee!

 

[billbadass]

EQT with their custom COBB traction control I think was hitting mid 5s on only stage 1, add some nice sticky tires or nt555r in a mk7 with limited slip and good motor mounts I'd bet high 4s is pretty easy with very little engine mods

 

[CarlosCanizares]

Whenever I wonder about the limits of FWD cars, I think of the Civic Type R - it has similar factory specs to a Stage 1 GTI, yet somehow it can achieve about 5.1 seconds 0-60. Only edge I can think of is it has really wide tires. Any thoughts as to what makes the Type-R so much faster than the GTI?

I reckon suspension.

 

[Leonardp]

Stage 2, stock turbo, downpipe, VWR intake.

 

[Diggs24]

lol

 

[El_bigote_AJ]

Stage 2, stock turbo, downpipe, VWR intake.

you know that's not accurate right?

 

[gti330ex]

best i've seen on my torque app is 5.051 on 235 MPSS. Real world is usually 7.5 seconds.

 

[jdiamondGolfMK7]

Guys, a new car has made FWD acceleration history! This month's car and driver tested the new Mini John Cooper Works GP with 301HP. It set an all time record for FWD 0-60 when it made it in just 4.7 seconds! (Not too far from the AWD golf R!). Maybe it just puts all its weight on the front? Which makes it all the more hard to say why a tuned GTI can't do somewhat better. (Although the post above about needing a wider power band to avoid wheel spinning seems like something APR could look into.)

Honestly, I wish more car makers would consider RWD. BMW has shown for decades that a RWD car has 90% the performance of an AWD car.

 

[Ridebjj]

"Honestly, I wish more car makers would consider RWD. BMW has shown for decades that a RWD car has 90% the performance of an AWD car. "

Yup... a rwd hot hatch would sure be nice.

 

[Hollywood0220]

A Nissan Leaf will beat you from 0-60 also - could be close depending on driver

 

[jimlloyd40]

A Nissan Leaf will beat you from 0-60 also - could be close depending on driver

The new Nissan Leaf is 6.9 seconds 0-62 MPH.

 

[jdiamondGolfMK7]

Guys, I just found a new amazing data point - the Australian MK7 TCR (basically our FWD golf with a Golf-R engine) did 0-60 in 5.0 seconds! This all kind of implies that the real wheel drive advantage exists, but is less than we might have thought. (Although I know of zero FWD cars that can better 4.5 seconds 0-60). Of course, a FWD also has a 10% weight advantage over AWD, so in that sense the gap is wider.