jimlloyd40
Autocross Champion
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- 2018 SE DSG
There's been no new EPA laws that have changed that were announced at least. And the current administration isn't exactly emissions friendly. Has APR offered an explanation?
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APR No Longer Providing Stage 2 Tunes After Labour Day. Other Tuners to Follow
- Thread starter geokilla
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MK7 AP2
Go Kart Newbie
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- Tucson, AZ
Evans Tuning got hit with nearly a million dollar fine in 2017 and they were a small operation compared to APR. It's probably a good idea to not explicitly advertise tunes that by definition defeat emission requirements.
jimlloyd40
Autocross Champion
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- Phoenix
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- 2018 SE DSG
Who is Evans Tuning and how do you know the fine they paid had an emissions related basis? If they advertised that their tunes defeated emission standards they deserved to be fined. Most tunes will pass emissions because they don't base emissions on wide open throttle and tunes when not on wide open throttle keep the AFR where it should be on modern cars.
MK7 AP2
Go Kart Newbie
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- Tucson, AZ
I think you are missing the point, it doesn't matter how "clean" the tune is. Replacing a cat is technically illegal and an "off road use only" disclaimer likely won't work if the EPA wants to make an example of you. I'm just saying it's in the best interest of APR, from a legal standpoint, to not specifically advertise the tunes designed to eliminate secondary 02.
Tooly
Drag Race Newbie
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- Kelowna, BC Canada
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- 2018 GTI Autobahn
Also probably related to a diesel truck tuning company that was fined last year. https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/performance-diesel-inc-clean-air-act-settlement-information-sheet
First you start the whole dieselgate thing and now aftermarket tunes. You Americans are ruining it for everyone lol
First you start the whole dieselgate thing and now aftermarket tunes. You Americans are ruining it for everyone lol
Quantim0
Passed Driver's Ed
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- Winter Park, Fl
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- 16 GTI and S3
Yeah 100 companies produce 70% of the global emissions, but it's the car enthusiasts that need to be stopped.
https://www.theguardian.com/sustain...-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change
https://www.theguardian.com/sustain...-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change
jimlloyd40
Autocross Champion
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- Phoenix
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- 2018 SE DSG
Americans had nothing to do with Dieselgate. That was a German idea.
Navi
Autocross Champion
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- BK/NYC/Hamptons
I'm ready to gap every peasant stage 1 MK8
#stage2since2017
#stage2since2017
FRANKIEWALLNUTS
Go Kart Champion
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- Vernon NJ
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- VW mk7 Gti
I have to say I agree with you. I have a 2017 RAM3500 Cummins diesel and it’s completely deleted and tuned from 9k miles. I’m tuned using EZlynk and Hardway performance tunes. In the diesel trucks it’s all about the proper tune. I have 4 tunes. Not one rolls coal. All spotless clean tunes with zero black smoke. Even the 190horsepower tune. These kids buy a smarty tuner off eBay because it’s cheap and they over fuel the trucks causing that black smoke. They run around abusing it and think it’s fun. Ruining it for guys like me who deleted the truck to save motor issues and reliability later down the road. It only takes a small percentage of people to ruin it for everyone else unfortunately. Now I believe it’s a snatch n grab so the epa can cash in on these companies because they have lost a lot of funding in the past few years. Hopefully they leave us car guys alone.
Tooly
Drag Race Newbie
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- Kelowna, BC Canada
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- 2018 GTI Autobahn
It was American researchers who discovered the cheating
jimlloyd40
Autocross Champion
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- Phoenix
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- 2018 SE DSG
That's a good thing.