True statistics should be obtained in Europe, where the Golf family is super popular. American forums are a niche spot, and more often than not they will have people asking for help once something breaks rather than dropping by to say they have had no problems at all.
I understand that, but from a reliability standpoint, it doesn't factor in if you run at least the min. octane fuel required and make sure it has adequate detergents (Top Tier).You are probably right tbh.
But I am a firm believer that German cars should run on 91/93 octane gas. Just the way I grew up I guess
higher octane is almost always a good thing for turbocharged motors. puttering around in a stock GTI, ok, but if you're going to be driving it hard, extra knock resistance is still a great thing to have.
Yes, of course for maximizing power, but for absolute reliablity which was the discussion topic, for normal folks driving normally, it has zero bearing here beyond the detergents/additives.
I'll just disgree then. IF the car was tuned to be able to run a min. of 87 octane, you will never be able to show that taking two stock GTIs for this instance and running them both to 100K one with 87 and one with 91/93 that there would be any measureable "reliability" difference. Can you point out what specifically would be "less abslute reliablility" here with the one running the min. octane rating? The ECU handles all of this.
the ecu "handles all of this" by pulling timing. log a car running even mediocre 91 and you'll see constant timing retard. yes, it will keep the motor alive by doing this, but you'll foul out spark plugs quicker, kill your cat quicker, etc. over 100k i'm sure that's going to be noticeable. these things will pull some timing even on decent 93. all of that is just plain old driving reliability, not to mention the reduction in chance of detonation. yes, a stock car is pretty unlikely to blow a piston, but running better fuel will reduce that chance further.
No, you are wrong. Reasons? Because I am right. Other reasons? Because racecar.
detergents don't do anything for your pistons when they're working with shitty winter gas that's been sitting in the tank for weeks. bobistheoilguy is a hell of a drugNo, you are wrong. Reasons? Because I am right. Other reasons? Because racecar.
Yeah, everyone everywhere usually hears about the problems and rarely about the successes. I didn't post on the F-Body forums that my car was running great for 18.5 years and then suddenly flood the forums with "My 19-year old Camaro is crap!" posts.
