cb1111
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Chill, my friend. We're all on the same side here. As you know, there is so much incorrect information about oils on forums.Well it sounds like you didn’t read what I said for comprehension, since I stated that it was *also* 502 spec. you scolded me for “using the proper oil, not what I think is best.”
you could’ve just said:
“It’s not 508 spec, so they just gave you (me) what was already in it (5W-40), which was what they would’ve given you (me) regardless.”
You said:
If you go the oil change route, remember to request that they utilize 5W-40 instead of the new 0W-20 shite ( when I brought my AT in for its first oil change under the "VW Care" package which inlcudes 2 oil changes, I requested the 5W-40 instead. The service manager pushed back, stating that "since this is warranty work by VW it has to be what they're prescribing." I responded that VW's 502 spec still applies to the new engines, they just created a NEW spec and the new ones come from the factory with THAT spec. From a VW/Warranty perspective, they don't care whether you use 0W-20 or 5W-40, as they've ALWAYS required 5W-40 until the 2019MY. The only difference is the 0W-20 nets 3% better gas mileage and doesn't statistically increase the likelihood of warranty payouts, so they went with that for marketing reasons. 5/0W-40 is still the business.
The 2019 1.8 engine requires 502 spec oil and not 508. Using 508 will cause you warranty woes if you have a lubrication issue. The fact that 508 exists is immaterial to this engine as it should not be used.
Starting with 2019, the 2.0 (and I believe the 1.4) engines use the new spec 508 oil, but the 1.8 continue to use 502/504.
The "use the proper oil" was not really directed to you, but to those people (dealers included) that believe that the 502 oils are better than 508 oil in all cars - including those that are spec'd for 508.
Given that VW made changes to the engine and software to be able to use 508, using 502/504 in those cars can cause issues. Conversely, using 508 in an engine developed for 5w40 is like using water.
Neither 508 or 502/504 is "better". They are each ideal for whichever oil the engine is designed for.