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Old 10-17-2017, 02:14 PM   #18
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I ended up having - 2 degree negative camber at the front using the CSS swivels and SuperPro 007K LCA's.
I can corroborate these numbers, with the 006K LCA (which increases caster over that provided by the 007K).

I will add that I doubt there is any more room inside the wheel well for installation of camber plates. The strut bracket for the swaybar endlink is VERY close to the sheet metal, with some signs of scrapping on the driver's side.
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:40 PM   #19
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I would say anything around -2 is good for the average street car that see some track time and is looking for some benefits of running more camber.

If its being tracked a lot you want to get as much as you can IMO. I run -3 degrees and would go more but that means new knuckles and spings to make it work. I also had to cut my strut towers to max out the plates.
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Old 01-04-2018, 02:30 AM   #20
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Hi guys.
I am thinking of installing the 034motorsport fixed top plates.
They have advised to give -1,4 in extra negative camber.
I'm not sure if this will cause any extra rubbing on my setup as it is now.
What do you think.
If I understand this it will boost me to - 3,4 in negative camber.

My car is mostly tracked so not afraid of tire wear. But it needs to be be safe on the road to for my wife to use it now and then.
What do you think?
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Old 01-04-2018, 02:39 AM   #21
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Hi guys.
I am thinking of installing the 034motorsport fixed top plates.
They have advised to give -1,4 in extra negative camber.
I'm not sure if this will cause any extra rubbing on my setup as it is now.
What do you think.
If I understand this it will boost me to - 3,4 in negative camber.

My car is mostly tracked so not afraid of tire wear. But it needs to be be safe on the road to for my wife to use it now and then.
What do you think?
a buddy of mine just installed these along with the new 034 springs on a GTI.
he did some informal diy camber measure and claims -2.4
hasn't mentioned any rubbing issues.

as mentioned in a post above, clearance with the strut end link mount can come into play for some aftermarket struts.

my sportwagen springs (which have over 6" od) will permit about -1.5 adjust before springs rub. I have no issues with the strut end link mount but I'm on stock 50mm struts.
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Old 01-14-2018, 03:57 AM   #22
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If you're using the car 90% for track why in the world would you be driving a GTI? Just curious, not trolling. Why not a ND miata or FRS/BRZ or something in that similar price range?
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Old 01-14-2018, 03:59 AM   #23
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If you're using the car 90% for track why in the world would you be driving a GTI? Just curious, not trolling. Why not a ND miata or FRS/BRZ or something in that similar price range?


The mk7 GTI is an incredibly good base to build on. Better than the R and is very fast when done right. I run faster than a lot of turbo miatas and brz/frs.


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Old 01-14-2018, 06:21 AM   #24
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If you're using the car 90% for track why in the world would you be driving a GTI? Just curious, not trolling. Why not a ND miata or FRS/BRZ or something in that similar price range?
I have my R used for track. I think split is 70%track and joy. 30% Road.
Don't see any wrong with this.
Most of the people her drive the Golf GTI and R"s out of passion. NOT to have the best track weapon bla bla bla..
Don't understand your comment.
Yes there are other "better" platforms but we are here for the love in what we do.

And for me there is a plus having a second car that is safe for my wife to drive. And me to have fun with...
Isn't this why we all are here for? ��
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:29 PM   #25
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I have my R used for track. I think split is 70%track and joy. 30% Road.
Don't see any wrong with this.
Most of the people her drive the Golf GTI and R"s out of passion. NOT to have the best track weapon bla bla bla..
Don't understand your comment.
Yes there are other "better" platforms but we are here for the love in what we do.

And for me there is a plus having a second car that is safe for my wife to drive. And me to have fun with...
Isn't this why we all are here for? ��
I get it if it's a mixed road car and track car but for nearly all track the GTI is not a good platform without a lot of changes (See GTI Clubsport S).

I'm not even talking about all out lap time. Talking about consumables, FWD roasting tires, driving dynamics etc. I've instructed students in Golf R's, they did ok on track but not that exciting. For 40k there are much better cars for joy/track. If you need a car that can do it all it makes sense.
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:18 PM   #26
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Why would you ask this question if you have already ruled out camber plates? Just looking for positive confirmation on your decision not to have camber plates? Here, have a pat on the back.
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Old 02-25-2018, 12:27 AM   #27
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I'm thinking about running about -2 in the rear in and -2.5 to -3 in the front for autoX/hillclimbs. I have the ST XTA's with the front camber plates. Gonna test that here at the first event.
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Old 02-25-2018, 02:25 AM   #28
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How much is to much negative camber up front?
Can it get to. Much?
I have about - 2 and are thinking of the 034motorsport top plate bearing...
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:06 PM   #29
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How much is to much negative camber up front?
Can it get to. Much?
I have about - 2 and are thinking of the 034motorsport top plate bearing...


I canít remember for sure, but arenít you running the CSS swivels and 0006K SuperPro LCAs? If so, I donít think you have the room to decrease camber more than what you already have. Youíll get interference between the strut mount FSB endlink and inner fender.
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:56 PM   #30
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I canít remember for sure, but arenít you running the CSS swivels and 0006K SuperPro LCAs? If so, I donít think you have the room to decrease camber more than what you already have. Youíll get interference between the strut mount FSB endlink and inner fender.
You are correct.
Thanks for the heads-up. Didn't know that...
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:45 PM   #31
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You are correct.
Thanks for the heads-up. Didn't know that...
Also assuming you are lowered. If not, you might make it work. It would be very close.
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Old 02-26-2018, 08:08 PM   #32
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jmason.
I am not lowered. Running full stock OEM springs and DCC dampers. How much is to much negative camber?
Let's say I don't get any rubbing by adding the 034motorsport top mounts.
I would den get around - 3.4 degrees of negative camber (I'm at - 2 aprox now)
Will I have any benefits on the track?
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I just got my new, completely stock 2017 Sport out of the alignment shop in preparation for this weekend's first autocross of the year. Some creative adjusting got the front camber to -1.1 degrees on the LF and -1.27 on the RF. There may be a bit more adjustment range there than you think!
Now that I have some good baseline numbers, I've got a solid starting point for further tweaking. First thing will be to get the RF camber closer to the LF. Shouldn't be too hard- I've got a digital camber gauge...
I'm running in G Street class with the local SCCA, so I can't add camber plates, adjustable ball joints, etc.
Seeing how the weather has (and still is) been cold & snowy, I figure my P7 all seasons won't be at much of a disadvantage to the RE71's on the cold pavement. It MAY get into the mid-50's on Sunday.
Oh yeah, this car is a DD too. Depending on tire wear, I may have to crank back the negative camber a bit while on the street.

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Some creative adjusting got the front camber to -1.1 degrees on the LF and -1.27 on the RF. There may be a bit more adjustment range there than you think!

Iíve looked at the suspension and donít know how front camber can be adjusted in this style strut. How did your shop get those numbers?



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