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Old 11-10-2017, 08:32 PM   #188
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Over $37k for a GTI Autobahn DSG....yikes

And that's not including any options like monter mats or wheel locks or a first aid kit, which they typically add on (at port)

At that point I would think you'd spring for the R instead @ ~$40k
Price is Canadian dollars
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Old 11-11-2017, 06:04 AM   #189
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Over $37k for a GTI Autobahn DSG....yikes

And that's not including any options like monter mats or wheel locks or a first aid kit, which they typically add on (at port)

At that point I would think you'd spring for the R instead @ ~$40k
What do you guys think of this article?

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/11/09/...ti-r-alltrack/

This guy said the GTI is more fun to drive than the Golf R:

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But the [Golf R] feels a bit numb, almost like you're just inputting some commands and letting the car sort out the rest. The steering has virtually no feel, and the suspension, while quite compliant, also feels like it's leaving out a bit of information from the road.

The GTI fixes all of those issues of feeling. The steering is much more talkative, especially as the front tires load up. The suspension isn't as comfortable, but it lets you know the conditions of the pavement better. These tweaks make it much more enjoyable for bombing down back roads. It makes you more involved, more able to enjoy the experience.
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Old 11-11-2017, 08:16 AM   #190
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What do you guys think of this article?

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/11/09/...ti-r-alltrack/

This guy said the GTI is more fun to drive than the Golf R:
From all the GTI vs. R debates I've seen in forums over the past year, the biggest thing that's brought up is that a GTI is "about 90% (or insert some other high percentage) of what the R is." Next is that the GTI adds "more drama" due to being FWD, whereas the R is more "planted and predictable" because it can send power to the rear wheels when necessary. That "more drama" plays into the "more fun to drive" argument. And of course, the added weight of the R and the bigger turbo (less low-end torque compared to the GTI) are brought up as well.

I don't think much about it, tbh. They're both great cars, and they both have pros and cons, depending on how you want to look at it. It's really up to the buyer to figure out which one suits them and go from there.

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Old 11-11-2017, 08:32 AM   #191
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Discounts and incentives though.

My 2016 GTI stickered only $5k away from an R, but by the time the OTD Price was calculated the gap was $11k.
True...the GTI is (usually) available with more discounts than the R


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Price is Canadian dollars
Why would it be Canadian dollars if the link/pricing was from the US media site?

https://media.vw.com/en-us/press-kit...-gti-press-kit
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:59 PM   #192
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Why would it be Canadian dollars if the link/pricing was from the US media site?

https://media.vw.com/en-us/press-kit...-gti-press-kit
Because he's not referring to the press kit. As far as I could tell the Autobahn pricing in not given in that link. It is however stated to be $37k Canadian in the youtube link I posted.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:48 AM   #193
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Because he's not referring to the press kit. As far as I could tell the Autobahn pricing in not given in that link. It is however stated to be $37k Canadian in the youtube link I posted.




Looks like the pricing is listed in the pricing sheet there.



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Old 11-14-2017, 03:45 AM   #194
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Ah, thanks. Couldn't get any of that info to come up for me.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:44 PM   #195
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Anyone see the new LED headlights yet?

Are they at least as bright as the bi xenons? From my own experience it seems leds don't even come close to the output of Bixenons.
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Old 11-19-2017, 02:59 AM   #196
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Anyone see the new LED headlights yet?

Are they at least as bright as the bi xenons? From my own experience it seems leds don't even come close to the output of Bixenons.
I just bought a '17 DSG SE last month and traded in a '14 Corolla that had standard LED headlights. I can say that the Corolla LED's were brighter than my current GTI HID's (lighting package).
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Old 11-21-2017, 06:17 PM   #197
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FWIW, I was just reading my most recent issue of Porsche Panorama (the Porsche club's monthly magazine) and they noted that some MY2018 Porsches took longer to hit dealer lots due to a slower than expected EPA certification. I would not be at all surprised to learn that VW's new cars were getting additional emissions scrutiny, leading to longer than typical certificates. I think they need to do CARB as well, though I'm not sure if they are done in sequence rather than parallel - CA may wait until EPA is complete.
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:32 AM   #198
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I suspect the reality is that VW is exhibiting hyper-caution in regards to the US market. This caution--basically the launch of the re-fresh upon the backbone model range--has been cautions, calculating, & steered by brand experts. Hence the delay. I doubt EPA certification---the gas engine is unchanged---has caused any delay. VW took a $30+++ billion dollar smack-down, the company would implode across every nameplate/brand if it were to "cheat" in any regard for the next century. What is happening? Just a simple guess...the emphasis upon a zero-fault USA intro to market of the refresh consumed more time than assumed. The US VW Dealer infrastructure is actually VW the Manufacturers clientele...and once the calendar flipped to Q4 2017, the slowest time of the yer to move inventory, Dealers probably told VW "no go" on the MK7.5 on our lots until after the new year. Turn on the TV....every other commercial is a Car Manufacturer's 'Tis The Season Ad's to lure people entirely focussed upon buying anything/everything but a car, into perhaps buying a car.
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Old 11-22-2017, 09:31 PM   #199
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I asked a sales manager and she said, "I believe they will be letting us know the release dates early next month."
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