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New member, potential R-buyer
- Thread starter bboytaktix
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bboytaktix
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- Canada
Thanks! I wanted lapiz blue but the gf convinced me against it...got the Indium Gray Metallic instead. Always wanted a dark gray metallic car!
bboytaktix
Ready to race!
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- Canada
Still no word from my dealer. My friend tipped me off that another dealer near me had 2018's in stock and even let him test drive a 2017 R so I went last Friday to check it out.
Well they had the exact car I ordered in the showroom. Indium gray 2018 with DSG (except ugly spielberg rims instead of pretorias) so gf and I took the time to sit in it and check everything out. Nice car...now I want MINE!
Assistant sales manager seemed alright. Nice guy I guess. Not too pushy, yet. Told me he sold the 2017 and the 2018 he had were without winter tires, but he'd try to swap rims and get me a test drive in one.
I really don't get how this dealer has 3 2018's in stock and I heard one of the salesman saying they had 4-5 more en route, yet my dealer who I ordered from hasn't even gotten a 2018 OR a used one for me to test drive yet. Leads me to believe he just isn't motivated to call me back and get me a test drive. Wondering if I should pull my deposit from the other dealer and work something out with this dealership... thoughts?
Well they had the exact car I ordered in the showroom. Indium gray 2018 with DSG (except ugly spielberg rims instead of pretorias) so gf and I took the time to sit in it and check everything out. Nice car...now I want MINE!
Assistant sales manager seemed alright. Nice guy I guess. Not too pushy, yet. Told me he sold the 2017 and the 2018 he had were without winter tires, but he'd try to swap rims and get me a test drive in one.
I really don't get how this dealer has 3 2018's in stock and I heard one of the salesman saying they had 4-5 more en route, yet my dealer who I ordered from hasn't even gotten a 2018 OR a used one for me to test drive yet. Leads me to believe he just isn't motivated to call me back and get me a test drive. Wondering if I should pull my deposit from the other dealer and work something out with this dealership... thoughts?
drshark
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- Niagara Falls, NY
How to deal with ugly rims -- use them for winter tires. Then buy what you want for summer. For me: Michelin PS4S 245/35-19 on 19x8.5...
I think if it was anything like with the MK6 R, the number of R allotted to each dealer is based on the number of GTI they sold. The dealer I bought mine from had over 10 18s come in the span of a week. I was able to walk in to test drive, and took delivery within two weeks.
bboytaktix
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- Canada
nah the dealership said they can just swap the rims with a Pretroria set from another '18 R so I don't have to deal with that, or pay the extra $250 for rims I don't even like. I like nice rims summer AND winter! want the pretoria replika rims for winter, they are cheap and seem to be solid
Will be painting OEM pretorias black because BADASS bboytaktix
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- Canada
yeah that's pretty much what the guy said except it was that they sold the most golf R's, not GTI's. Just annoyed that my salesperson is not getting back to me I guess.
On the positive side, I do not mind waiting as my Subaru is paid off since the end of last yr and no car payments for an extra month or two is sweeeet. Also I'd rather put the new car through the least amount of winter possible...it's been brutal here this winter.
Nobody answered me for the bargaining. Dealers don't seem to move at all on price - were any of you Canadian buyers able to get something like winter tires thrown in (or at dealer cost) or discounts on extended warranty/maintenance plans?
Frez13
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- Blackfalds, AB
As far as extras I had them upgrade from the monster mats to weather tech liners, and they threw in undercoating. They were willing to steeply discount a set of winters (they said their cost) but I was able to work a deal with a shop that I dealt with before and worked a better price.
As far as price, they did go $1k under msrp, but I did lease a Tiguan for the wife the week before so that was why they were willing to move on it.
As far as price, they did go $1k under msrp, but I did lease a Tiguan for the wife the week before so that was why they were willing to move on it.
bboytaktix
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- Canada
Great, thanks for the feedback. I did not own a VW before, but I did get a $500 rebate from the VW "New Graduate" program since I completed my MBA in November. Will try to price out some winter tires at least with them.
You already get 6-years/112K meters standard on Canadian cars? How long do you plan to keep the car? Anyway, see if you can buy the "extended warranty" and the maintenance plan for 3 years at the same time for a discount. Make sure the maintenance plan is worth it. Here, oil changes are relatively cheap. You get a brake fluid flush and a Haldex change at 3-years/50K meters and one cabin filter at 2-years/30. Don't ask up front, get the prices first. The problem with trying to get tires or accessories at dealer cost is the parts department takes the hit. I don't think they'll do for high dollar items. You can call other dealers to see if they'll give you a better deal on the warranty/service agreements.
SteveM3
Passed Driver's Ed
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- Halifax NS
We don't get the new People First warranty in Canada unfortunately. One of the first things I asked my dealer when I ordering.
You'll enjoy your Golf R. Owned 4 Subies and got tired of them not getting it together. The 2015+ STI is a fun car but it's harsh, unrefined and has the typical Subaru interior. I drive a GTI now and with a tune it'll pull away from an STI. I do miss the AWD but if you're buying the "R" you won't have that problem. The GTI's and the R's are a world away in fit and finish.
Also you'll find that these cars are very easy to tune and it doesn't cost much to do so. When the STi's and Evo's were put side by side, the EVO guys would always say that their cars could make more power for less money. They were right, the Subaru's always cost more to modify and you had to stress over the stock internals whereas the EVO's just needed a tune a and a few supporting mods to become monsters.
I would argue that the GTI's and the R's are modern day EVO's from that standpoint. A simple stage 1 tune and that R will get going real fast and you won't be worrying about the ringlands melting on you. My GTI has a COBB with a custom stage 1 etune and putting down 300 whp and 365 wtq. That's enough to smoke STi's all day long and for a whole lot less money. Your new Golf R will make more than that with a stage 1 tune. Basically if you're wanting to go fast and depending on what route you want to take you're about $1000.00 away from making serious power. APR is a good way to go. JB-4 is a good way to go, COBB with a custom tune is a another way to go.
The good part is that you'll never have to put up with a less than stellar interior ever again. That saying "that's not where your money went" will no longer be part of the vocabulary.
Enjoy your new car....
Also you'll find that these cars are very easy to tune and it doesn't cost much to do so. When the STi's and Evo's were put side by side, the EVO guys would always say that their cars could make more power for less money. They were right, the Subaru's always cost more to modify and you had to stress over the stock internals whereas the EVO's just needed a tune a and a few supporting mods to become monsters.
I would argue that the GTI's and the R's are modern day EVO's from that standpoint. A simple stage 1 tune and that R will get going real fast and you won't be worrying about the ringlands melting on you. My GTI has a COBB with a custom stage 1 etune and putting down 300 whp and 365 wtq. That's enough to smoke STi's all day long and for a whole lot less money. Your new Golf R will make more than that with a stage 1 tune. Basically if you're wanting to go fast and depending on what route you want to take you're about $1000.00 away from making serious power. APR is a good way to go. JB-4 is a good way to go, COBB with a custom tune is a another way to go.
The good part is that you'll never have to put up with a less than stellar interior ever again. That saying "that's not where your money went" will no longer be part of the vocabulary.
Enjoy your new car....
bboytaktix
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- Canada
Hey, thanks for the response.
We unfortunately do not get that USA warranty. We get the standard 4-year/80,000km bumper to bumper and 5yr/100,000km engine/drivetrain warranty. I plan to keep the car for either 5-6 years depending on how well it holds up and how many km. Paying it over 5yrs (putting a significant amount down but keeping monthly payments low since buying a house soon) so will keep it for sure until it's paid, possibly longer. Extended warranty is mostly for peace of mind and resale (might not raise value much but makes an easier sale and get your asking price) provided I can get a deal on it.
Makes sense what you are saying about wheels/tires. I'll just ask what they can do once I go in for signing, if there's any way to make the deal work for both of us. On my Subaru, I do all my service myself (oil changes, filter changes, even the 100,000km service including brakes and brake fluid, and spark plugs which are a B*TCH to do on flat-four engine) so I will see if the deal is worth it IF they can discount it enough.
Sounds like people aren't getting too many deals/throw-ins with this car. I understand it's a niche market car with lower production numbers and relatively high demand so it isn't much of a surprise, just wondering what kind of deals people were getting.
bboytaktix
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- Canada
yeah one thing I am excited for is the refinement vs my 2011 Subaru which is fairly rough. I kept it stock after seeing a few friends destroy their OEM clutch and have some engine problems (they were upgrading anyways but MAN did they spend money). Mine still runs great with no tune and I am glad I didn't mess with it. Also still on stock clutch at 128,000km and it is holding up very well.
As for tuning potential, It's another feature of the R I am excited about. I am leaning towards a JB4 since I am not looking for massive power and a friend told me this is safest way to preserve warranty if there are any issues (his buddy works for a VW dealer). Ordered DSG so I don't have to mess with upgrading the clutch, plus my GF hasn't driven std in like 12 yrs and didn't want her doing a refresh on a brand new $45K CAD car lol. I spend most of my work commutes in traffic anyways.
I am about to put my STI up for sale, they do have great resale value and I'd say mine is an 8/10 overall so hoping I can get the price I want for it. Just a matter of finding the right buyer.
That's true. The STi's hold their value well. Someone will buy it, don't worry. As for the DSG, it's the way to go. I thought I'd miss grinding gears, I don't. I have a 1997 Miata for doing that as well as a BMW R1200
GS. The DSG is almost telepathic, I can't tell you how many times I've noticed it shift exactly as I would when downshifting. It does tend to hold on to the gear past the hp/tq curve at WOT but that's what you have paddle shifters for.
When I work the paddles I let it climb to 5500 then hit the next gear up. It works quite well. With the R or the GTI you won't get many looks in traffic but that's ok. The Subie guys will definitely not look at you and that's ok too. I kinda laugh at that now. It's a stealthy little thing, no one but those who know will ever pay any attention to it and you'll actually find that enjoyable after a time. My Subie was anything but subtle so I got used to the stoplight stare, now I'm just another car in the crowd, until I step on the gas.