ManInTheClouds
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The previous year, there was no issue with them.
Just a little hitler at this particular place I guess.
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Euro tails, finally!
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The previous year, there was no issue with them.
Just a little hitler at this particular place I guess.
nype
Drag Racing Champion
- Location
- Vancouver, B.C.
Yeah that sounds about right.
For Leuchte27NSL I would code it like the code of the following Leuchte20BR
For Leuchte20BR I would use the code like Leuchte18BLK:
For Leuchte21BR exactly the same as for Leuchte20BR but with “Blinken rechts Hellphase”.
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I’m going to search later because I can’t recall, what is the significance of these settings:
- Lampendefektbitposition
- Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTF-DCC
You’re suggesting changing the values for these from what they default to on my car. Wondering if I need to? And if so, why?
nype
Drag Racing Champion
- Location
- Vancouver, B.C.
3 weeks later and I am still waiting for these terminal tools to arrive. They’ll be late if not here by Nov 23. I wish Amazon would show the seller location like eBay does.
So last weekend I got impatient and tried one of these that I found locally. I could immediately see why this type doesn’t work in the smaller VW plugs.
So while I patiently wait for my Amazon China shipment, I was wondering about the tail light plug. From what I have seen on YouTube there is usually a secondary lock. I am wondering on this plug, is it the flap/cover on the top left of this pic?
nype
Drag Racing Champion
- Location
- Vancouver, B.C.
So that terminal tool didn’t work. And the one I ordered from Amazon never did arrive. So I picked up a Lisle 55780 and that did the trick.
Had some trouble popping the secondary locks open on the plugs. Used a thin tool but ended up cracking them both a bit. Anyway, they are still holding well enough.
The amber 7440 bulbs that I picked up don’t seem to fit. I’m not sure what type bulb is required. I tried the incandescent clear bulbs as well and they didn’t fit into the amber sockets. Anyone know which bulb type is required here?
Otherwise, really happy with this fun and relatively cheap mod. All of the coding etc is working like a charm. No extra wires had to be run etc etc.
Thanks once again for all of the help and advice on this.
Had some trouble popping the secondary locks open on the plugs. Used a thin tool but ended up cracking them both a bit. Anyway, they are still holding well enough.
The amber 7440 bulbs that I picked up don’t seem to fit. I’m not sure what type bulb is required. I tried the incandescent clear bulbs as well and they didn’t fit into the amber sockets. Anyone know which bulb type is required here?
Otherwise, really happy with this fun and relatively cheap mod. All of the coding etc is working like a charm. No extra wires had to be run etc etc.
Thanks once again for all of the help and advice on this.
nype
Drag Racing Champion
- Location
- Vancouver, B.C.
One oddity that I noticed. When I press the brakes, the amber signals flash for a split second. However, with either left or right signal active, this does not happen. Happens with or without the running lights on.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
I found this bulb chart made by the ever so helpful DV52: http://i.imgur.com/1iu65aC.jpg
After googling WY21W, I saw that people in a Mazda forum have a similar problem with 7440 being incompatible with the WY21W despite being the supposed equivalent, but this might help: http://www.mazda3forums.com/6642678-post7.html
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After googling WY21W, I saw that people in a Mazda forum have a similar problem with 7440 being incompatible with the WY21W despite being the supposed equivalent, but this might help: http://www.mazda3forums.com/6642678-post7.html
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nype
Drag Racing Champion
- Location
- Vancouver, B.C.
Thanks for this. Yes, I wonder if the amber bases are slightly modified to try to prevent people from putting clear bulbs in.
I will check out that mazda3 thread in my browser. Doesn’t seem to want to open within Tapatalk.
I will check out that mazda3 thread in my browser. Doesn’t seem to want to open within Tapatalk.
nype
Drag Racing Champion
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- Vancouver, B.C.
Did some trial and error coding changes today. Could not figure out why the amber rear signals briefly flash with each brake pedal press.
I tried different bulb types, tried disabling all of the rear channels (Lasttyp - not active). Still they flash. But again, they don’t flash when the channel is “active” (turn signal of hazards on).
You see the flash coincide with the audible “click” that you hear from the front area of the car.
It’s as if Leuchte20BR and 21BR (now the amber rear turn channels) still thinking that they are brake lights, but immediately dim. I’m stumped.
Any ideas?
nype
Drag Racing Champion
- Location
- Vancouver, B.C.
Ughh... found an old Vortex thread. wish I had come across it before I got into this. Thread discussing this signal flicker issue with the earlier LED tail installers. Apparently that purple/red wire insists on sending a brake signal, even if just a flicker.
JBale said...
“The main thing that I knew I had to avoid was using the current Pin 1 wire to power the Pin 3 turn signals. For some reason unknown to me the Pin 1 wire wants to be a brake light even after the brake light coding is removed from the adaption channels relating to the pin out. So if that wire wants to be a brake light so badly then that's what I would let it be”
Hmm...can I live with it, or do I return everything to stock...decisions.
JBale said...
“The main thing that I knew I had to avoid was using the current Pin 1 wire to power the Pin 3 turn signals. For some reason unknown to me the Pin 1 wire wants to be a brake light even after the brake light coding is removed from the adaption channels relating to the pin out. So if that wire wants to be a brake light so badly then that's what I would let it be”
Hmm...can I live with it, or do I return everything to stock...decisions.
ZERO815
Autocross Champion
- Location
- Köln Germany
- Car(s)
- 2017 GTI SE DSG
Nype,
I‘m sorry to hear about the flickering. I wasn’t aware of that. Maybe that is the explanation why the outer tails light up a little bit earlier then the inner when you do the four/five brake light mod.
You still have some options left.
1. Undo
2. Use LED adapter harness
3. Re-pin at the BCM. Switch A71 to A60 and code 18A60 as turn left. C8 to C31 and code 19C31 as turn right.
4. Undo re-pinning and coding and run two wires to the BCM and connect them with A60 / PIN3 left and C31 / PIN3 right. I can send you two wires with the terminals attached if you want.
I went with option 4 because it was the easiest way in the case I want to undo it before I sell the car.
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I‘m sorry to hear about the flickering. I wasn’t aware of that. Maybe that is the explanation why the outer tails light up a little bit earlier then the inner when you do the four/five brake light mod.
You still have some options left.
1. Undo
2. Use LED adapter harness
3. Re-pin at the BCM. Switch A71 to A60 and code 18A60 as turn left. C8 to C31 and code 19C31 as turn right.
4. Undo re-pinning and coding and run two wires to the BCM and connect them with A60 / PIN3 left and C31 / PIN3 right. I can send you two wires with the terminals attached if you want.
I went with option 4 because it was the easiest way in the case I want to undo it before I sell the car.
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nype
Drag Racing Champion
- Location
- Vancouver, B.C.
Not a problem.
I was thinking exactly the same thing re the four/five brake mod and the outers illuminating more quickly than the inners. I was never able to solve this. But with the current wiring and coding, they illuminate at the same time.
I had purchased a BEC harness at a good price on Black Friday. It is already on the way. I think that I will just go this route since there is a lot more info and support online. I’m more comfortable taking the back of the car apart as opposed to running wires front to back etc
But I do see your chosen method as the cleanest.
Are you still using 20 and 21BR for outer brake lights? Do you have that four/five brake light issue still?
Thanks again for your help and advice.
I was thinking exactly the same thing re the four/five brake mod and the outers illuminating more quickly than the inners. I was never able to solve this. But with the current wiring and coding, they illuminate at the same time.
I had purchased a BEC harness at a good price on Black Friday. It is already on the way. I think that I will just go this route since there is a lot more info and support online. I’m more comfortable taking the back of the car apart as opposed to running wires front to back etc
But I do see your chosen method as the cleanest.
Are you still using 20 and 21BR for outer brake lights? Do you have that four/five brake light issue still?
Thanks again for your help and advice.
ZERO815
Autocross Champion
- Location
- Köln Germany
- Car(s)
- 2017 GTI SE DSG
Yes I still use 20 and 21 for outer brake lights and I do have this slightly inner delay but I don’t care. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!
You are welcome.
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nype
Drag Racing Champion
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- Vancouver, B.C.
Well at least that mystery is solved. Lol
Preparing for the BEC harness install, doing some reading. I’m guessing that it uses...
20/21 : outer runner/brake
23/24 : left/right signal (wire run)
27 : inner runner/brake (wire run)
Is that correct?
Forgot to thank you for offering to send me some wires. Not going route, as mentioned. Generous of you.
Cheers!
Preparing for the BEC harness install, doing some reading. I’m guessing that it uses...
20/21 : outer runner/brake
23/24 : left/right signal (wire run)
27 : inner runner/brake (wire run)
Is that correct?
Forgot to thank you for offering to send me some wires. Not going route, as mentioned. Generous of you.
Cheers!
ZERO815
Autocross Champion
- Location
- Köln Germany
- Car(s)
- 2017 GTI SE DSG
Looks about right. Enjoy [emoji6]
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nype
Drag Racing Champion
- Location
- Vancouver, B.C.
Ok thanks. You posted this earlier.
So I can see how 23/24SL on the inner tails is a non-factor as this pin is not in use on the incandescent inner tails.
Wondering why pin 1 and pin 4 on the outer tails are both wired for 20/21BR? Won’t that make the side LED function as a runner/brake?
Edit: ignore that question. I recall that pin 4 on the ROW incandescent tails is not in use. So non-issue there as well.
So I can see how 23/24SL on the inner tails is a non-factor as this pin is not in use on the incandescent inner tails.
Wondering why pin 1 and pin 4 on the outer tails are both wired for 20/21BR? Won’t that make the side LED function as a runner/brake?
Edit: ignore that question. I recall that pin 4 on the ROW incandescent tails is not in use. So non-issue there as well.
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