Hambert
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- Bahia Blanca, Argentina
Hello all, it's nice to be here. I'm Humberto from Argentina. I hope you can give me a hand with this...
Last Friday we got our new MY17 GTI, built in Mexico, Argentinian spec. I've made some minor mods on the first day like showing amount of fuel to replenish, fog lights instead of low beam for coming home, offroad menu in radio, and coming home automatic instead of manual. I've set all back to stock after discovering this issue.
What's happening:
- Fault codes show up after playing couple of times with the fob, like locking-unlocking and double-tapping to supposedly disable SAFElock. They do come back after clearing DTCs and using the fob again.
- Sometimes the red LED on the door will light up steady for 30 sec before going into flash mode.
- SAFElock won't engage in any of the 4 doors, no matter if I press the fob once or double tap. I've tested it by staying inside the car and opening them after a while, or leaving a window open and doing it from the outside.
- Doors lock OK and can't be opened from outside, alarm goes off after arm timeout and opening a door as spected.
Since the fault is recorded in both modules it makes me thing it has something to do with software and not a physical failure of some sort. After double tapping the button to supposedly disable SAFElock, it doesn't do anything at the second press. My previous A4 did lock as normal with the first one, and the second one used to make a slightly quieter "pop" as only the SAFE motors were released.
I hope you can give me some help. I've tried many things and I couldn't get the SAFE system to engage. I've also disconnected the battery, waiting 20 min and touching the terminals together, with no luck (of course I had to drive a couple of blocks to reset the ESP and clear all the dummy DTCs).
Here's an autoscan:
If I can avoid a visit to the dealer that would be AMAZING
Car has kessy and the data container label indicates a 4F2 code for Kessy latches WITH SAFElock. One of my theories is that they fitted NAR Non-SAFE ones at the factory and coded it Argentinian spec? I've asked on the Golf forum and others users tested the system correctly.
THANK YOU!!!
Last Friday we got our new MY17 GTI, built in Mexico, Argentinian spec. I've made some minor mods on the first day like showing amount of fuel to replenish, fog lights instead of low beam for coming home, offroad menu in radio, and coming home automatic instead of manual. I've set all back to stock after discovering this issue.
What's happening:
- Fault codes show up after playing couple of times with the fob, like locking-unlocking and double-tapping to supposedly disable SAFElock. They do come back after clearing DTCs and using the fob again.
- Sometimes the red LED on the door will light up steady for 30 sec before going into flash mode.
- SAFElock won't engage in any of the 4 doors, no matter if I press the fob once or double tap. I've tested it by staying inside the car and opening them after a while, or leaving a window open and doing it from the outside.
- Doors lock OK and can't be opened from outside, alarm goes off after arm timeout and opening a door as spected.
Since the fault is recorded in both modules it makes me thing it has something to do with software and not a physical failure of some sort. After double tapping the button to supposedly disable SAFElock, it doesn't do anything at the second press. My previous A4 did lock as normal with the first one, and the second one used to make a slightly quieter "pop" as only the SAFE motors were released.
I hope you can give me some help. I've tried many things and I couldn't get the SAFE system to engage. I've also disconnected the battery, waiting 20 min and touching the terminals together, with no luck (of course I had to drive a couple of blocks to reset the ESP and clear all the dummy DTCs).
Here's an autoscan:
Code:
Tuesday,28,November,2017,11:12:44:17116
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4401.4
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
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VIN: 3VW4E6AU6HM061690 License Plate: AC007ZH
Mileage: 139km-86mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (3Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 2B 42 44 52 55 5F A9
VIN: 3VW4E6AU6HM061690 Mileage: 139km-86miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CXDA) Labels:. 06K-907-425-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5G0 906 259 C HW: 06K 907 425 B
Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI H13 0002
Revision: --H13---
Coding: 091D00122424052B1000
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00073
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259C 001005
ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259C.rod
VCID: 2E05F01C409368B7F96-807A
No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0001
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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 0D9 300 042 S HW: 02E 927 770 AS
Component: DQ250-6F MQB H54 5010
Revision: 06454104 Serial number: TFK01702073288
Coding: 0014
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00020
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021_VW37.rod
VCID: 290F0300797D0F8F2C4-807C
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:| 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 AQ HW: 5Q0 614 517 AF
Component: ESC H62 0400
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 50947000000866
Coding: 01FA6BA13426116D407D0609C0C32980D62C88026003947600415030C009430000000012121212B835351919323200
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 036010
ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_036_VW37.rod
VCID: 00597EA4AA872EC75BA-8054
No fault code found.
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518) Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 435 B HW: 5Q0 959 435
Component: VWKESSYMQB 021 0710
Revision: 00021000 Serial number: 0430161429
Coding: 032C0C
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 002019
ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_002_VW37.rod
VCID: 3B23C94883E18D1F4E8-806E
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5GM 907 044 E HW: 5GM 907 044 E
Component: Climatronic H04 1801
Revision: 00001K04
Coding: 00020014200100011004000000101402
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 006145
ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_006_VW27.rod
VCID: 46D5A8BCC823C0F7216-8012
Fresh Air Blower Front:
Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender:
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 937 086 BG HW: 5Q0 937 086 BG
Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 032 0223
Revision: -------- Serial number: C86406041701QJ
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00073
ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 017002
ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_017_VW27.rod
VCID: 00597EA4AA872EC75BA-8054
Control Unit For Wiper Motor:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A HW: 5G1 955 119 Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
Component: WWS 170217 043 0551
Serial number: 97022066170228074517
Coding: 0E4DDD
Rain Light Recognition Sensor:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 B HW: 5Q0 955 547 B Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
Component: RLHS 042 0105
Serial number: S4Y17M03D31H15M46S37
Coding: 00A8DD
Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172 HW: 5Q0 951 172
Component: Sensor, DWA 005 0316
Serial number: 000000000ZY1621838JU
Alarm horn:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 A HW: 5Q0 951 605 A
Component: Sirene, DWA 005 0314
Serial number: 00000000000037240351
Sun Roof:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5GD 959 591 A HW: 5GD 959 591 A
Component: J245 PS60.006 H07 0170
Serial number: 03691617653012161159
Coding: 181803
Relative Air Humidity Interior Sender:
2 Faults Found:
197128 - Lock Module for Central Locking; Rear Left
B12DB 29 [009] - Signal Implausible
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 15
Mileage: 139 km
Date: 2017.11.28
Time: 10:12:45
197384 - Lock Module for Central Locking; Rear Right
B12DC 29 [009] - Signal Implausible
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 15
Mileage: 139 km
Date: 2017.11.28
Time: 10:12:45
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 K HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H03 0054
Revision: -------- Serial number: 39361704200105
Coding: 0031051011
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002026
ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
VCID: 43D3B1A8FB11F5DF068-8016
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AT HW: 5Q0 959 655 AT
Component: AirbagVW21 003 0317
Serial number: 003TYR2PKNC3
Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF000800000065
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002154
ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
VCID: 127D44ECF4EBAC57FDE-8046
Side Sensor Driver Front:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 000 803 17
Component: SideSensor_Df 001 0887
Serial number: 35700000000B6A210226
Coding: 2D2D2D
Side Sensor Passenger Front:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 000 803 17
Component: SideSensor_Pf 001 0887
Serial number: 3580000000009C210221
Coding: 2D2D2D
Side Sensor Driver Rear:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 502 17
Component: SideSensor_Dr 000 6149
Serial number: 3510001B3249E3B4012V
Coding: 2D2D2D
Side Sensor Passenger Rear:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 502 17
Component: SideSensor_Pr 000 6149
Serial number: 3520001AD2465B46434/
Coding: 2D2D2D
Front Sensor Driver:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 603 17
Component: FrontSensor_D 001 6149
Serial number: 3550002C92439CE4A26G
Coding: 2D2D2D
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:. 5Q0-953-549.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 HL HW: 5Q0 953 549 E
Component: Lenks. Modul 003 0140
Revision: -------- Serial number: 26031708490178
Coding: 0410
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 020002
ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_020_VW37.rod
VCID: 074B65B88FA919FF1A0-8052
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
Part No SW: 5G1 920 756 B HW: 5G1 920 756 B
Component: KOMBI 344 8311
Coding: 07AD0918A980000801086A001000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00020
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009051
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
VCID: 2C01FA14768F1AA7D72-8078
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: None
Part No SW: 3Q0 907 530 C HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
Component: GW MQB High 515 5286
Serial number: 08041700840747
Coding: 030100047F085900FA0002681C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00215
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013020
ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW37.rod
VCID: 2F3BED18479961BFF20-807A
Alternator:
Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 M HW: 5G0 959 442 M Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H11 0103
Serial number: 27160003171420046496
Coding: 29FFFF
Battery Monitoring Control Module:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 K HW: 5Q0 915 181 K
Component: J367-BDMHella H10 9070
Serial number: 8431523004
No fault code found.
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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764) Labels:| 5Q0-905-861.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 905 861 A HW: 5Q0 905 861 A
Component: ELV-MQBA H01 0120
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 17000078210002
Coding: 5D00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00215
ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQB 004111
ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQB_004_VW37.rod
VCID: 3431E274AEBF42678F2-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
Component: TSG FS 020 0041
Serial number: 04041706050A6O
Coding: 003E12208000020000001000
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT_VW37.rod
VCID: 43D3B1A8FB11F5DF068-8016
Drivers Door Rear Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 D HW: 5Q4 959 811 D Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
Component: Fond FHSG DRV 007 0002
Serial number: 00000000000006027015
Coding: 010000
1 Fault Found:
65593 - Switch for Central Locking
B122D 29 [009] - Signal Implausible
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 15
Mileage: 139 km
Date: 2017.11.28
Time: 10:08:56
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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:* None
Part No SW: 3QM 909 144 HW: 3QM 909 144
Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 506 5072
Coding: 0107
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00020
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013_VW37.rod
VCID: 0C415A9496CF7AA7372-8058
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
Component: TSG BFS 020 0041
Serial number: 030417060503OW
Coding: 003E12208E00020000001000
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT_VW37.rod
VCID: 42DDB4ACE40BFCD70DE-8016
Passengers Rear Door Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 D HW: 5Q4 959 812 D Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
Component: Fond FHSG PSG 007 0002
Serial number: 00000000000005980940
Coding: 090000
1 Fault Found:
65593 - Switch for Central Locking
B122D 29 [009] - Signal Implausible
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 15
Mileage: 139 km
Date: 2017.11.28
Time: 10:08:56
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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745) Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 D HW: 7P6 907 357 A
Component: AFS-ECU H07 0090
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 029A01000B000200
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB 001120
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB.rod
VCID: 40D9BEA4EA07EEC71BA-8014
Left Headlamp Power Output Stage:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 941 329 HW: 5N0 941 329 Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LeiMo links H01 0004
Coding: 2E0000
Right Headlamp Power Output Stage:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5N0 941 329 HW: 5N0 941 329 Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LeiMo rechts H01 0004
Coding: 2E0000
No fault code found.
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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 035 846 A HW: 3Q0 035 846 A
Component: MU-S-N-ER 840 0751
Serial number:
Coding: 02730003FF00000051220001001828001F0203C401200100C7
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00215
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW26.rod
VCID: 2F3BED18479961BFF20-807A
Operating And Display Unit 1:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 605 D HW: 3G0 919 605 D
Component: ABT_Std-2_Nav H53 1031
Serial number: VWZ8Z9TJU04ZJJ
Data medium:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 866 AT HW: -----------
Component: MRM2 2017 --- 0735
Serial number: --------------------
No fault code found.
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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869) Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
Part No SW: 5G0 907 159 HW: 4H0 907 159 A
Component: SAS-GEN 2 H06 0014
Serial number: 170206202034
ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X_VW26.rod
VCID: 6B833908B301DD9F9E8-803E
No fault code found.
End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:29, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------
If I can avoid a visit to the dealer that would be AMAZING
Car has kessy and the data container label indicates a 4F2 code for Kessy latches WITH SAFElock. One of my theories is that they fitted NAR Non-SAFE ones at the factory and coded it Argentinian spec? I've asked on the Golf forum and others users tested the system correctly.
THANK YOU!!!