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Old 12-07-2017, 02:37 AM   #11493
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Could it still be adapting?


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Old 12-07-2017, 02:41 AM   #11494
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This is what I'm hoping. Didn't happen again after I got in and drove back home after 45 min. I also was a little bit afraid to push it... Hopefully that's it.
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Old 12-07-2017, 02:53 AM   #11495
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What are the dsg adaptation instructions?
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:53 AM   #11496
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I just had an awful missed shift or false neutral when trying to gun it on the highway...
in stage 1?

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Old 12-07-2017, 03:59 AM   #11497
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Yes but I didn't do the adaptation. Anyone have the instructions to do that with Ed tool?
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Old 12-07-2017, 04:23 AM   #11498
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Yes but I didn't do the adaptation. Anyone have the instructions to do that with Ed tool?
It's in the first post now.

"To do the adaptation procedure, the car must be warmed up.
Then go to diagnostics, address 2 (Auto trans), get ecu info, then click basic settings.
With the car idling in park, the parking brake set, and your foot on the brake, run through each of the procedures in the drop down."

RJ says just do these 4.
-Calibration of synchro-points
-Reset clutch characteristic curve
-Resetting of all adaptation values
-Start double clutch fast adaptation

Driving procedure after it finishes.
-Drive in Tiptronic Mode from stand still up to 6th Gear.
-While doing that make sure to drive in Gears 3 or 5 for approx. 5 minutes and also in 4 or 6 for approx. 5 minutes.
-The engine speed window for all gears is 1200 - 3500 RPM (for clutch calibration).
-Perform one sharp braking followed by a full throttle acceleration (oil return check) while in Drive, Not Tiptronic Mode.
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Old 12-07-2017, 04:32 AM   #11499
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:44 AM   #11500
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Just flashed stage 2 and did the adaptation. And... I'm having some issues.

First, when driving in D, accelerating hard from a stand still, when it shifts into 3rd, it chirps and falls flat on it's face, bucking me forward in the seat. Did this every time.

Second, in S, every gear past 2nd requires 4k rpm to shift. This was always 3k before and 4k is obnoxious.

I haven't had any clunking during take off and no issues so far while in manual mode. I hope the adaptation process is still going.

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Old 12-07-2017, 10:18 AM   #11501
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I haven't flashed anything ED yet, powertap just sitting on my desk until I get something checked out at the dealer. But I'm starting to question my purchase. I wonder if Frank Mabo would let me just return the TCU, since it's never been used and less than 30 days. At this point I'll probably just bend over and take it from daddy APR.

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Old 12-07-2017, 02:57 PM   #11502
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Many people online claim Uni is better? @ least you can do it @ home then.
Yeah maybe. I had this debate and went with ED based on Frank's recommendation. I was looking at $750 for the Uni Stg2 ECU tune on Black Friday and it's $850 now.

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Old 12-07-2017, 03:27 PM   #11503
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Idk about miles better! That's debatable! Lol
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:39 PM   #11504
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This dsg saga is certainly entertaining. Im still on the original tcu flash. Ive just been watching and waiting. Seems like there are still lots of issues for some.
Apr must be nice Id imagine, you just flash the tcu and drive off and all is well lol

Id imagine the bugs will get fixed eventually, till then I generally drive this car in manual mode.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:50 PM   #11505
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It's in the first post now.

"To do the adaptation procedure, the car must be warmed up.
Then go to diagnostics, address 2 (Auto trans), get ecu info, then click basic settings.
With the car idling in park, the parking brake set, and your foot on the brake, run through each of the procedures in the drop down."

RJ says just do these 4.
-Calibration of synchro-points
-Reset clutch characteristic curve
-Resetting of all adaptation values
-Start double clutch fast adaptation

Driving procedure after it finishes.
-Drive in Tiptronic Mode from stand still up to 6th Gear.
-While doing that make sure to drive in Gears 3 or 5 for approx. 5 minutes and also in 4 or 6 for approx. 5 minutes.
-The engine speed window for all gears is 1200 - 3500 RPM (for clutch calibration).
-Perform one sharp braking followed by a full throttle acceleration (oil return check) while in Drive, Not Tiptronic Mode.
Why just those 4?
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Old 12-07-2017, 04:23 PM   #11506
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Why just those 4?
I don't know, that's just what RJRacing said.
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Old 12-07-2017, 04:49 PM   #11507
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Got the following stage 2 dsg codes in OBDeleven and ED tool (when reading codes in the transmission option (#2 in the drop down manu). Maybe it is do to not following the procedure mentioned above after dsg adaptation

P177B00 - Clutch 1 Tolerance limit reached
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P177C00 - Clutch 2 Tolerance limit reached
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Fault codes found :



21177 :

Code unknown..

P0000

Fault status : 00001011

Active

Active in this driving cycle



Confirmed







Warning lamp off





21178 :

Code unknown..

P0000

Fault status : 00001011

Active

Active in this driving cycle



Confirmed
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:11 PM   #11508
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I don't know, that's just what RJRacing said.
Not to be a 'fanboy' (I am far from it...), but the APR TCU tune has worked very well for me since the day I drove it away from the shop. It did well with JB4, and it is doing well with Maestro.
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:27 PM   #11509
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Got the following stage 2 dsg codes in OBDeleven and ED tool (when reading codes in the transmission option (#2 in the drop down manu). Maybe it is do to not following the procedure mentioned above after dsg adaptation

P177B00 - Clutch 1 Tolerance limit reached
static
P177C00 - Clutch 2 Tolerance limit reached
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Fault codes found :



21177 :

Code unknown..

P0000

Fault status : 00001011

Active

Active in this driving cycle



Confirmed







Warning lamp off





21178 :

Code unknown..

P0000

Fault status : 00001011

Active

Active in this driving cycle



Confirmed
Did you do the read when the engine was running? You will always get strange codes if you read them while it's running. You can't clear them with the Ed tool unfortunately, you'll need to use obd11 or vcds to clear the transmission codes.

Also don't be alarmed about the tolerance limit reached. That's normal with all dsgs that are tuned, it's because, it sees the increased pressure and assumes that the transmission did so because you have low clutch life, when in reality it's not the case lol. It's increased because you WANT more clutch life and want to avoid slipping which kills the clutch.

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