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Old 05-18-2017, 12:48 PM   #1
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APR low torque file and DSG

There are a few threads on this topic with statements as 'any tune can potentially cause DSG slip' but not too many objective posts.

I was just wondering how many of you are actually having issues. Please post which tune you have and at what miles after getting tuned did you begin to experience problems. If you are 6MT please specify. Thanks!
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:59 PM   #2
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You won't notice it on low TorQue or stage 1 the only chance of it happening is when you are the stage two high torque level and even still. But that's why they have tcu tunes to help with it. Our clutch packs in the dsg are rated for about 400 foot pounds


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Old 05-18-2017, 01:39 PM   #3
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You won't notice it on low TorQue or stage 1 the only chance of it happening is when you are the stage two high torque level and even still. But that's why they have tcu tunes to help with it. Our clutch packs in the dsg are rated for about 400 foot pounds


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Really? I've heard higher numbers than 400. I hope they are higher than 400 since supposedly my stage 2 HT does 409.

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Old 05-18-2017, 01:53 PM   #4
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DSG holds the power even at stage 2 levels with no issues at all,now manual that's a whole new problem stock clutch is garbage
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:09 PM   #5
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I don't think the issue is with the DSG holding. It just needs the TCU tune to increase clamping pressure to avoid slip.

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Old 05-18-2017, 02:17 PM   #6
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Yes I agree
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:58 PM   #7
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So I'm assuming all of you who replied are tuned with DSG and have no issues?
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:07 PM   #8
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So I'm assuming all of you who replied are tuned with DSG and have no issues?


I've got 14600 km on my R and 13000km have been tuned with no issues
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:45 PM   #9
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Some people have problems with stage 1. It's a crap shoot. If you want to be reasonably sure you won't need to pay for a clutch pack get a piggyback.
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(Mostly) Posted by Josh/AWE. Flapper valves are open at idle, close after 1100 RPM during part throttle. Full throttle 1st-4th gear the valves open until throttle let off. 4th gear, 1500 RPM to full throttle closed, closed until 3500 RPM, then open until lift off throttle.
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:34 AM   #10
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Some people have problems with stage 1. It's a crap shoot. If you want to be reasonably sure you won't need to pay for a clutch pack get a piggyback.
Are you tuned? Yes, from all the other threads I've searched it seems like a crap shoot, but I really wanted a thread to compile who really has had problems and in what time frame... Hopefully this way we can have a better idea?
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:35 AM   #11
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He's tuned on life
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:36 AM   #12
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Old 05-19-2017, 03:41 PM   #13
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I just had an APR Stage 1 done with DSG. I did a lot of research, and my mechanic has tons of APR experience. He said the hi torque Stage 1 is fine with DSG.

I use my R on the track as well as lots of mileage as a daily driver. I also keep my cars for a long time, so reliability is very important for me. I started a thread asking for responses from people with APR tunes over 20K miles and all were very positive.
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28940

One thing I rarely (almost never) do is stop light drags. If I was into that, I probably would have gotten the TCU as well, because that puts huge stress on the clutches.
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Old 05-19-2017, 03:56 PM   #14
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The TCU is about so much more than just increased clamping pressure.

- Takeoff smoothness is vastly improved.
- The 1-2 shift which was typically jerky for me is vastly improved.
- Shift points are much more intuitive. The car no longer races to higher gears and likes to keep you around a minimum of 2000rpm so you are closer to the power.
- Shifts overall are just faster.

It's worth the $700. If you're getting an ECU tune, there's no reason to skip the TCU besides being cheap. And oftentimes, being cheap costs you a lot more later in many facets of life.

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Old 05-19-2017, 06:35 PM   #15
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All I got to say is that if you are dsg the ecu/tcu go hand in hand if you don't have it,you really don't get what the people that do have it are really talking about it really is like night and day

As for stop light drags 4700 launch control....lol awesome and 6800 redline
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:54 PM   #16
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If you're getting ANY APR tune you might as well get the TCU tune, since you're driveline warranty is toast anyway.
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(Mostly) Posted by Josh/AWE. Flapper valves are open at idle, close after 1100 RPM during part throttle. Full throttle 1st-4th gear the valves open until throttle let off. 4th gear, 1500 RPM to full throttle closed, closed until 3500 RPM, then open until lift off throttle.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:57 PM   #17
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If you were only putting out gross 300 ft. lbs. of torque then I would vote for no TCU tune.
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(Mostly) Posted by Josh/AWE. Flapper valves are open at idle, close after 1100 RPM during part throttle. Full throttle 1st-4th gear the valves open until throttle let off. 4th gear, 1500 RPM to full throttle closed, closed until 3500 RPM, then open until lift off throttle.
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