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Old 10-12-2017, 10:48 AM   #35
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As you go up in tiers the SBC ones get pricey. I want the extra insurance of a Stage 3 Endurance for the inevitable IS38. I also hate the stock clutch feel, a heavier clutch should fix that.
For what it's worth I wouldn't install a SBC in my car if it were free, let alone paying a premium for one. I've personally seen them fail to hold the torque they're rated for on diesel trucks and mk6. Ik neither of those are mk7 but that's enough for me.
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:09 PM   #36
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Interesting, 1.8T clutches are half as much as 2.0T clutches I had only priced out 1.8T ones. It'll be closer to $2500 then. I'll be running the SBC Stage 3 Endurance 2.0T cost $1750, 1.8 cost $950.
Would be interesting to see if somehow we could get the 1.8 clutch to work on a 2.0. You could do a SRE clutch with a new DMF for roughly $1,000.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:52 PM   #37
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For what it's worth I wouldn't install a SBC in my car if it were free, let alone paying a premium for one. I've personally seen them fail to hold the torque they're rated for on diesel trucks and mk6. Ik neither of those are mk7 but that's enough for me.
Mine was rated for 470tq. My car made close to 600tq at the crank With shit load of antilag awd launches. Hot lapped it at drag stip for maybe 10 passes running 11.1-11.3s and clutch held. Organic disc starts feeling like butter when they heat up but still. Awd running NT05s it held. Gotta keep in mind lots of people install them wrong. You NEED to clean of flywheel from lub before install with a grease remove. “I used thinner” lots of failures are customer errors. Especially when from my experience SB underrates their stuff.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:11 AM   #38
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Would be interesting to see if somehow we could get the 1.8 clutch to work on a 2.0. You could do a SRE clutch with a new DMF for roughly $1,000.
I hate dual mass flywheels with a passion. I also know several people with South Bend Clutches that have fun them for years and loved them? I'm not sure what the difference between the 1.8t/2.0t clutch and flywheel are but I'm going to assume the spline count is different on the input shaft. The crank pattern should be the same, but we'll find out here soon enough!
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:45 AM   #39
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Nothing much to update on this, just awaiting funds. I will be going 6 speed for now. Long term the plan is to rebuild my 5 speed and install it. Dog box gears, lsd, the whole nine yards.

I don't like the gearing in 6 speed cars, I've driven a few this week, I feel like I'm shifting too often. However right now a 6 speed is the quickest way to get me back on the road and handling a bit more HP.
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Old 10-20-2017, 08:36 PM   #40
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Cool! Were you trying out the mk7 6-speed or something else? The mk7's should be pretty similar until 4th gear, but mk6 and mk5 are WAY shorter.
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Old 11-18-2017, 05:56 AM   #41
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Just to update, the transmission I'll be going with is an MQ350 6 speed not a MQ250, I had been referring to this wrong as GolfDave pointed out. The trans code I will be running is an NBL from a 2015 GTI without PP. The Mk7 MQ350 is preferable due to the steel shift forks and gear ratios that are improved over the Mk5/6. PP trans will not work without extensive cost to get the VAQ working. Pending extra income I will do the LSD, but the budget is tight lately with my Eos taking a few expensive hits(80k DSG service, tensioner and serp belt etc.) If I do the LSD the case will be open so I may have 5/6 gears replaced with longer gears.

LKQ sells the trans for $600-$1000 pending mileage and case code. The PP ones are closer to $1000. Mine should cost around $750 out the door. Core charge is only $75 so I will be keeping and rebuilding my 5 speed with some dogbox gears at a later point. Most of the transmissions LKQ sells that I have looked at include the gear selectors and cable bracket but I will be replacing them with my install. LKQ also offers a 1 year unlimited mileage warranty which includes $1000 in labor costs! Trans cost through the dealer is in excess of $3600.

My updated cost forecast:
Trans - $750est - LKQ
SBC Stage 3 Endurance - $1751.24 - UroTuning
VWR Trans Mount - $549.00 - UroTuning
Neuspeed Short Shifter - $180.45 - UroTuning
APR Solid Shifter Cable Bracket - $149.99 - HSTuning?
OEM 6 speed shift knob - $150ish - eBay or ECSTuning
Total cost - $3530.68

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ECS Shifter Endlinks - $89.95 - ECSTuning

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Old 11-18-2017, 08:51 AM   #42
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Awesome, good luck with the install. I'm excited to hear all of your progress so keep us updated!
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Old 11-18-2017, 11:59 AM   #43
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Awesome, good luck with the install. I'm excited to hear all of your progress so keep us updated!
Should finally own everything within the next month! Fingers crossed for some black friday deals on SouthBend Clutches lol. I may skip the shift knob for a bit and the cable bracket to save a llittle bit, but we'll see!
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Old 11-18-2017, 08:55 PM   #44
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Or you could get one for cheaper used. I've seen a few in the sub $50 range, and to my knowledge no one has bought one so there is a bunch more supply than demand. Also, do you need a bleeder block?

EDIT: The clutch is currently $1760 on ECS with a $50 gift card you could probably use on one of the other parts. Although stage 3 endurance seems awfully overkill to me at a rated 580ftlbs, unless you're planning a build that will rival or surpass most stage 3 GTI's and R's.
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:13 AM   #45
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I plan to go IS38 after the trans swap then long term APR longblock. However I like the bite and feel of the Stage 3 Endurance over the Stage 3 Daily. The car is also going to be mainly a track and auto-x toy now that I have another semi-reliable modern vehicle daily. Hopefully selling my Eos and Mk1 here soon to put a nice down-payment a Mk7.5 Sportwagen S w/4motion with manual trans in Peacock Green, that is if we get Peacock Green in the states.
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Old 12-13-2017, 05:56 AM   #46
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Rabbit sold today, cash is in hand will be depositing tomorrow and ordering all the parts for the swap. Should be done before the first of the year Going to do my intercooler while I'm there.
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Old 12-13-2017, 06:14 AM   #47
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Can't wait to live vicariously through you.

So what are you going to tune the is38 with. Just jb4?
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Old 12-13-2017, 06:22 AM   #48
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Can't wait to live vicariously through you.

So what are you going to tune the is38 with. Just jb4?
I think that's his only option.

I can't wait to see how the swap goes! You will be my model for what I do when my clutch goes.
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I'll take as many pics as I can of the process, upgrading the clutch lines, bleeder block and the smf swap will be more fun than the extra gear in my opinion lol.
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Old 12-13-2017, 09:08 AM   #50
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$550 for a transmission mount?!?

The stage 2 transmission mount insert is like $50 from BFI, or $120 if you buy the whole thing (which is kinda pointless since it's just a new stock mount with the insert already in it)

I've had all three BFI mounts (full engine mount, trans insert, and dogbone insert) on my mk6 and mk7 GTI and highly suggest them for anyone looking to upgrade. All three are under $300 IIRC
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Old 12-13-2017, 09:28 AM   #51
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$550 for a transmission mount?!?

The stage 2 transmission mount insert is like $50 from BFI, or $120 if you buy the whole thing (which is kinda pointless since it's just a new stock mount with the insert already in it)

I've had all three BFI mounts (full engine mount, trans insert, and dogbone insert) on my mk6 and mk7 GTI and highly suggest them for anyone looking to upgrade. All three are under $300 IIRC
Have/had the BFI mounts already, cheap aesthetic only garbage. Wore faster than OEM. The trans mount is a joke, it's a little cube replacing the rubber that doesn't even move/flex under load. Wouldn't recommend them to anyone. 034 or SuperPro are 100x the mounts. VWR are 500x the mounts. Well worth the extra money.
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