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Old 01-25-2017, 06:33 PM   #18
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The stacked rear spring arrangement allows two functions. Ride well and Handle well. Have your cake and eat it too.

The black spring handles the day to day bumps and controls ride comfort qualities aka the business in the front. The orange spring handles the party in the back, this spring dertermines how the car handles and stabilizes on the road. The two work in symphony to maintain comfort and ride quality without sacrificing performance.

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Old 01-31-2017, 04:34 PM   #19
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Plenty of Kits in stock for MK5/6/7, 8V A3/S3, Mk2 TT! Same day FREE SHIPPING on all MSS Kits in stock. Click the image for pricing.

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Old 02-06-2017, 04:59 PM   #20
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This is a very interesting read from Audi Driver Magazine on MSS kits if you haven't seen it before. A little bit of background information on how MSS came about. This article really shows the true passion the team at MSS owns and feels it is their duty to make sure your car performs optimally while riding as well as it can.

http://www.msskits.com/wp-content/up...ver.pdf?x90954
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:09 PM   #21
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Updates! MSS Protection Sleeves for the adjusters are now up on the website. $50 for the fronts and $30 for the rears. Click on the image to view them on our store.

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Old 02-14-2017, 03:30 PM   #22
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Anyone Interested in a group buy?
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:18 PM   #23
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Anyone Interested in a group buy?
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:54 PM   #24
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on the springs??
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Installed another set of Fully Adjustable Sports on a MK7 GTI! All variants of Full kits in stock for the MK2 TT, MK7 GTI/Golf R, 8V A3/S3!


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Installing another kit on a MK2 TT Convertible. Hundreds of kits in stock and ready to install or ship!

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Most likely be going with this setup in a few months, just missed the group buy
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Old 03-21-2017, 02:47 PM   #28
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Most likely be going with this setup in a few months, just missed the group buy
I am sorry about that When you are ready, be sure to reach out to me directly.
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The key to ride quality and performance output. The stacked rear spring arrangement.

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Walters Mk7 R equipped with MSS Track Pack Fully Adjustable with IE camber plates and Super Pro control arms, Euro mk6 R 19" wheels with 235/35/19 Michelin PSS with 5mm front and 10mm spacers.

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Old 04-14-2017, 09:53 PM   #31
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Take a gander at this awesome review posted by one of our S3 customers on another forum we sponsor.

I went ahead and purchased the MSS Track spec springs for my S3 with MRC after reading as much as I could on line as well as exchanging emails with MSS direct and the guys at Excelerate Performance who were also very helpful in deciding on what to get and the initial set up these springs. What is interesting with these springs is that the fronts are the same across all of the adj kits. The rear springs is what changes from kit to kit. I went with the most aggressive.

I'll provide my feedback as well as my current suspension set up that I'm running for my dual duty Track/Street car and how I liked it and what I will change. I have a lot of track/racing experience and have owned/sorted through multiple cars. I bring this up to state that I have some perspective, but all of this is my opinion, I'm not an expert.

My car is used for dual duty. My commute is short and it sees the track about three times a year. I go to the VIR full course primarily which is fast and flowing, but has a lot of technical corners as well.

First I can say without a doubt these springs are worth the money. The level of control is excellent in all situations (Comfort mode, Auto, Dynamic). I am very impressed especially with the additional modifications. After I installed everything I was a little afraid to see how bad I had degraded the ride quality, but to my shock even after all the changes I made and they are numerous/aggressive, I can say it rides better than stock with a few nuances which I'll discuss below. In comfort mode there is zero bounce when going over bumps, dips, etc.. The car just stays planted. Day to day and on the highway it rides really really well. I've done six hour road trips and it was really comfortable to drive. One of the features MSS states is these springs when set up properly help reduce nose dive and I agree. I have set the rake at 20mm (rear higher), they state you can go down to 5mm of rake and still achieve the anti dive performance. In comparison the H&R's would oscillate quite a bit over bumps etc in comfort mode and the front end would dive on street stops and the nose dive was extreme in threshold braking events at the track with my Stoptechs. The rear would move all over the place due the drastic weight change(no matter the technique nothing changed that behavior). Also you could not get on the gators at all or it would really unsettle the car(the springs would bottom out). Now the car stays dead straight in the braking zones(I didn't change toe settings btw, I always run zero Front, zero Rear) so it's all the springs/dampners and some of the other mods. Cornering is excellent with less body roll than the phase I set up I'll describe below and you can get a lot more aggressive on the gators, a lot more. The springs in concert with the dampeners which I liked in Dynamic mode on the track really felt excellent everywhere.

So what did I change? First my baseline setup -

I have a 16' S3 with MRC as mentioned earlier,

Front -

adjustable end-links
H&R Sport Springs(which I liked the drop, but the ride was only slightly better than stock, but fell way short at the track, which honestly I knew would be the case)

Rear -

034 subframe inserts
H&R springs
Superpro 24mm rear sway bar
adj end links

Other mods that haven't changed from old to new. Unibrace tunnel brace and a Eurocode rear strut brace as well. Quick history - I did track the car once bone stock right after the break in mileage and this set up was better, but only slightly. At the track I run Hankook RS3-V2's in a 255 - 35 - 18 mounted to lighter Forgestar F14's that are 18 X 9 (ET44). I run a completely square set up. I run Stoptech STR 60's on the front with Cobalt XR2 pads front and rear, point is, these brakes will expose any suspension and set up weaknesses in the brake zones. Lastly I have zero power mods, except for a drop in air filter which is negligible at best.

What I went to:

Front -
Adj endlinks stayed,
MSS springs with the adjuster set to as low as it would go
ECS lower control arms with the poly bushings
Tyrolsport front deadset kit
Ground Control Camber plates
Front Sway OEM

Rear -
Adj end links stayed
MSS springs with the rear adjusters almost as low as they will go
034 Subframe inserts stayed
034 spherical bearing control arms
Eurocode spherical bearing trailing links
Rear sway was swapped back to OEM from Superpro based on MSS recommendation

So with all of that I was very hesitant on how bad the car would ride and to my surprise as I already stated it rides better than stock outside of the camber plates. Over abrupt seams in the road you will get some noise in the cabin but nothing obnoxious. Very, very pleased with how well it rides and it is a beast at the track.

I'm running -2.25 degrees of camber in the front - Toe zero/ - 1.75 camber in the rear Toe Zero - Rake 20mm I am not changing the alignment back and forth. My comments on ride quality I've stated, but also even with this camber settings, the car drives straight and isn't wandering all over the road even with crowns present. It tracks dead straight.

On track the suspension felt awesome and the car was still very, very neutral. In the middle of the sessions I would start to lose grip in the front. I attribute that to older tires but mainly too much grip in the rear. On the old phase I set up, I never lost the front through a session, so this new set up was working the tires exponentially more. I played with the air pressures and it helped but the differential i had to go to (5lbs) took the rears way to high in terms of air presssure by the end of the session. What I'm going to change. I'm going to put the Superpro back on. The car would rotate slightly better than the Phase I setup, you still can't trail brake the car, but the rear end was more responsive to trailing throttle, but no as much as I want. So I'm going to put the SP bar back on, set it to full stiff and drop the rear camber to -1.50 and see how that feels at speed.

In terms of comfort here's my advice and it was actually the advice of Excerlerate. Unless you really want to get under -2 degree in the front, go with the springs and the Superpro lower control arms. I came to learn the duroball bushings they use in particular in the rear mounting spot is far superior, there are two models for our cars. One is stock for stock set up and the other has -.5 of camber built in and caster changes as well. With the springs on full low you should get to right at -2 at the front and retain the stock strut bushing. It would be a nice riding car above what I've said and you wouldn't get the camber plate NVH I mentioned.

In the end i love the springs and the set up, my times were 1.5 seconds(Best lap was 1.75 better) quicker on the same tires(even being older with more heat cycles in them) in similar conditions(track temp, etc...) and there is more there. The nice thing is now i have the appropriate foundation for R compounds and more power come this Christmas and Black Friday sales!

That's my two cents on the springs as well as an aggressive suspension set up.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:25 PM   #32
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Another awesome review from a local S3 customer

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Old 04-28-2017, 06:55 PM   #33
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Updated the Pricing a little bit on these kits for you guys

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Old 05-08-2017, 04:36 PM   #34
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My Personal recent experience with MSS track pack on DCC equipped Golf R.

I had the liberty to do some driving the other day in a 2016 Golf R. I took the car out for an hour with the stock suspension. I drove through city roads, back roads and did roughly 50 miles in high way driving to get a firm baseline before installing the MSS. I drove the car in all three levels... comfort, normal and race modes. I did this to get a good idea of how the car responded to bumps, turns, how it reacted at higher speeds such as on the highway... and of course to judge what the MSS kit could provide post installation. After we installed the track pack (fully adjustable) the difference was night and day different and noticeable immediately by pulling out of the parking lot. Starting in comfort mode and normal mod, I traveled enough mileage in both modes to notice they are both considerably more comfortable than stock. The bumps were much more forgiving, you didn't feel every little pebble either. The car didn't shimmy when driving on an overpass which some would consider to be instability. The car responded very well to all of these scenarios with the MSS kit.

The car now felt stable and confident. You can now use the steering wheel for what it was really intended to do, steer the car. The car feels alert and accepting to what is to come next, almost predictive it almost knows what you want it to do. The final test was to put it into race mode. The car turns into.... a race car... literally.. almost. The car felt neutral and flat while cornering, 100% of body roll is eliminated, delivers instant response to steering wheel input, virtually all dive and squat under hard braking/acceleration is gone. I would be confident that in race mode, you could talk almost any corner above 90mph with confidence and if the tires could support it. The car is entirely transformed in all modes of driving.
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