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Old 04-20-2017, 09:15 PM   #477
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Now on to my first questions:

Swaybar size. I had a 23mm Eibach in my MK6 and wished I had more. RM says he felt the same at 23 in his MK6. I'm thinking of going 25mm with the MK7. Will that be overkill? I want a little more rotation at autocross without being unpredictable on the street. I'm sure the 25 would be perfect on the MK6, haven't driven the MK7 a lot yet but have noticed two things:
1. It understeers something terrible at lower speeds, if you head in tad hot, or get on it too hard too soon.
2. At lower speeds I get some throttle-lift oversteer. I don't want to make that worse.

I'm wondering if both of those problems are directly attributable to the terrible all-season Pirellis that come on the car. By this weekend I'll have my Michelin Pilot Sport AS3s on it for street driving.

EDIT: I'll be in GS with stock suspension other than the swaybar, and lighter wheels w RE71Rs once I get them.

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Old 04-20-2017, 09:20 PM   #478
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Oh, and regarding discussion on rear swaybar. I saw a lot of talk about making the rear stiffer so it will rotate. Yes, that's part of the reason for a swaybar. However, it also transfers weight onto the inside front wheel, giving you more grip to pull out of a turn. Surprised I didn't see the weight transfer point brought up. The difference good sways that were stiffer in the rear made a HUGE difference on my Forester XT, the car I cut my autocross teeth on.
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:23 PM   #479
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Finally: once my 17x7.5 RPF1s get here on the moving truck, I'll be able to tell you definitively if they fit over PP brakes! I'm worried they won't
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:44 PM   #480
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MK7 is better, trust me, as long as the course is not too slow. At least for the 6MTs.

DSG might not have that problem. But you need to drive around DSG's quirk.
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:14 AM   #481
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Yeah, reading this thread helped educate me on them. Doesn't hold gear/may upshift on me. From what I gather people are saying to run DSG in sport? Why not flop it over to manual?

Also, I noticed the issue you brought up, the hesitation/intervention at 5k or 5.5k in 1st. If that's consistent, I would think upshifting at 5k would be the remediation.
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:45 PM   #482
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Hey guys, planning on my first autocross event in a few weeks after just watching my first one locally and have a quick question. I have a 2016 MK7 GTI 6MT w/PP and just installed 18" Neuspeed RSE10's and 235/40-18 Michelin PSS's (purchased before I decided to Autox). Question is, for my first run I dont want to destroy the PSS's, should I just run the stockers as they only have 8k on them or bite the bullet with the PSS's? Also, what pressures do you recommend for both? Thanks in advance for your input!
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Old 04-24-2017, 08:01 PM   #483
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Hey guys, planning on my first autocross event in a few weeks after just watching my first one locally and have a quick question. I have a 2016 MK7 GTI 6MT w/PP and just installed 18" Neuspeed RSE10's and 235/40-18 Michelin PSS's (purchased before I decided to Autox). Question is, for my first run I dont want to destroy the PSS's, should I just run the stockers as they only have 8k on them or bite the bullet with the PSS's? Also, what pressures do you recommend for both? Thanks in advance for your input!
I was running extremely high PSI on my PSS so I wouldn't ruin the shoulders. Around 45 hot if I remember correctly. They're too soft - it wasn't fun let me tell you that.
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Old 04-24-2017, 08:17 PM   #484
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I was running extremely high PSI on my PSS so I wouldn't ruin the shoulders. Around 45 hot if I remember correctly. They're too soft - it wasn't fun let me tell you that.
Yeah, thats what Im reading. Great for the street, but for autox they are not the way to go which is why Im considering rolling the stocks to see how it is and if I like it get a set of dedicated 17's and some RE71r's.
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Old 04-24-2017, 08:27 PM   #485
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MK7 is better, trust me, as long as the course is not too slow. At least for the 6MTs.

DSG might not have that problem. But you need to drive around DSG's quirk.
I've run three autocrosses now with my MK7 DSG. My setup is 245 RE71R's on 17x7.5's and I have the H&R bar. I'd been out of autox for about 8 years but back in the day I was nationally competitive in my Integra Type R and won many tours and a pro.

I tried shifting the DSG manually but it was tricky to find the tiny paddles with the wheel tuned even slightly so it was very distracting and I would end up off line. Since then I just keep it in S and let it shift where it wants to be. My experience is that while it sometimes shifts into third in a place I would allow a manual to bump the rev limiter its very quick to downshift back to second so I'm happy with it. I didn't buy this car with autocross in mind, if I had I would have bought the 6mt but its worlds better than any torque converter auto I have ever autocrossed.
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:27 AM   #486
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Yeah my MK6 was a DSG and you can use it just fine, just I find you need to be prepare to correct the transmission.
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:33 PM   #487
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Yeah, thats what Im reading. Great for the street, but for autox they are not the way to go which is why Im considering rolling the stocks to see how it is and if I like it get a set of dedicated 17's and some RE71r's.
The stock tires are terrible. You will have more fun on the pss. And you will not kill the tires in one event. Just run higg pressure in the front.
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:45 PM   #488
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Stock tires as in all seasons? Or the stock summers? I chunked the shoulders of the stock Bridgestone summers in a few track sessions, but they wore ok otherwise. You'll have TONS of fun with the stock tires if it's your first time out. Just run what you brung.
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Old 04-26-2017, 01:10 AM   #489
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I had all seasons, could not go full throttle in a strait line, 2nd gear. So thats what I based it off. Im sure the summers are better.
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Old 04-26-2017, 03:16 PM   #490
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Stock tires as in all seasons? Or the stock summers? I chunked the shoulders of the stock Bridgestone summers in a few track sessions, but they wore ok otherwise. You'll have TONS of fun with the stock tires if it's your first time out. Just run what you brung.
Yeah sorry, all seasons that came stock. I think Ill just toss those on for my firsts time and see how I like it. If I get hooked Ill probably just get a dedicated set of 17's.
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Old 05-07-2017, 06:52 PM   #491
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So I did my first autox event ever yesterday in my GTI! It was a blast and I'm definitely going to be doing it again soon. Even on a super wet course (see pics for the aftermath) the car surprised me with how nimble it was. It was a practice event so I got 10 runs in. My times improved with every run, my first time of the day was 70.8 seconds or so and I ended the day with a 58.6! I don't have much to compare my runs to but I was happy to look over at the clock and see that I beat a couple BRZs, a camaro, and a mustang as they finished the course. My car is a DSG and I kept it in manual mode which worked pretty flawlessly. I only had to make the shift from 1st -> 2nd at the beginning of the course so that made it easy. Anyways, I can't wait to get back out there!
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:31 PM   #492
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First concrete site event this year at Toledo, codriver ended up winning GS, I ended up 2nd.

GS Winning run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuYxR4AuBME

My dirty run that was .5 sec off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qskxqDKldhk

The run I ended up standing on for 2nd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqyryRvaZwM
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Old 05-22-2017, 02:07 PM   #493
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Got a lot of autoXing done this weekend, did a test and tune on Friday and a small event Saturday at the same site got 10 runs in in a day, plus a codriver. Then another event locally sunday. Probably put in 35 runs on the car this weekend...

But I still suck at having sound for my GoPro videos...

Sat AM

Sat PM


Combined AM+PM netted 6th on PAX, only 2nd in GS though

Sun wet event, at least when I ran. Unfortunately I ran too early. If I had waited longer to taken my run would do better in the result I think. When I ran this was a top PAX run(this local club doesn't do normal run-work order like SCCA).

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