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Old 01-21-2018, 10:38 PM   #1582
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I typically email dealers asking for the following split up. If the dealer is really interested in making the sale they would give the information.
MSRP
Selling price (what incentives are included)
Destination fee
Dealer fee if any

Tax and title fee is going to be the same irrespective of any dealer. I bought mine from a dealer who is 8 hours away and i stepped into the dealership only to take the delivery.
I always make them give me a number that is OTD minus tax and title. That way you aren't figuring out where the money has to come from. Give them another dealer to compete with and then tell them that if you give me xxx I will sign the dotted line. Has worked for the last 4 cars.

Ultimately it doesn't matter if they sell you the car for 5000 and add 20000 in dealer fees. Only the number you are comfortable buying the car for matters.

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Old 01-21-2018, 10:45 PM   #1583
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Yes its for a 2018 Autobahn. I am in SoCal. I try to get as much info from these dealers over email or phone but they wonít tell me anything. They all want me to come in, test drive the car and talk about it. I donít have time for that.

How does everyone get so much info out of these dealers?

Can you share your formula for fees etc? That would help. Thanks


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just gotta be patient - it took me a couple of weeks of research and back/forth with sales reps before i stepped into a dealership to talk in person.

i did specifically ask for a detailed price breakdown (MSRP, discounts, sale price, taxes/fees, OTD) - most dealers replied while others just insisted to come in and test drive the car. i just told them that i had already done a test drive and i'm looking through local dealer offers before coming in person to save time (you can tell from my cheat sheet)

i did not get a "final" price via email but i did get a pretty good idea for my target price when i had to come in in person for final negotiations.

For the formula:
OTD = sale price + 9.25% tax (varies depending on your zip code) + 0.9% (average other vehicle taxes) + $80 doc fee + $225 average other DMV fees
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Old Yesterday, 07:01 PM   #1584
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0.9% (average other vehicle taxes)
Damn, what other taxes do you guys have over there?
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Old Yesterday, 07:25 PM   #1585
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Damn, what other taxes do you guys have over there?
Yeah - there's lots of fees...

The DMV here site has an online calculator for all that (attached is a screenshot for all the fees based on a new $30,000 car)
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Yeah - there's lots of fees...

The DMV here site has an online calculator for all that (attached is a screenshot for all the fees based on a new $30,000 car)
Ahh, I was thinking the 0.9% was based on purchase price of car. Those look like a bunch of set fees you pay no matter what the car cost. $421 for registration fees isn't bad. Mine was over $300 IIRC on top of 8% sales tax and I live in the middle of nowhere. Tis the cost of having nice schools, nice roads, etc...
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Old Yesterday, 08:50 PM   #1587
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Hey guys, I'm looking around shopping for a 2018 base GTI. I dont want to put anything down and looking for 12k miles. I emailed my local dealer and the guy replied back with $422.42 a month plus tax. That seems pretty high to me..do you guys agree? Sorry I dont have any of the details as he did not provide them
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GTI's lease like crap. Pretty much always have.
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Old Yesterday, 09:38 PM   #1589
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Hey guys, I'm looking around shopping for a 2018 base GTI. I dont want to put anything down and looking for 12k miles. I emailed my local dealer and the guy replied back with $422.42 a month plus tax. That seems pretty high to me..do you guys agree? Sorry I dont have any of the details as he did not provide them
Damm, I'm paying $350/m - so you're getting screwed.
0 down _loan_ for 2017 S manual. 72 months. 3.9 apr. $20.3k +tax, etc
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Old Yesterday, 10:28 PM   #1590
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Damm, I'm paying $350/m - so you're getting screwed.
0 down _loan_ for 2017 S manual. 72 months. 3.9 apr. $20.3k +tax, etc
That is pretty good indeed. I've been searching all over and what Diggs above said is pretty much the sentiment..GTIs do not lease well for whatever reason. These new extended bumper to bumper warranties got me thinking maybe i should just buy instead. I've never had a loan longer than 48 months though so I'm not sure if I want to commit to 72 months or even 60. I wouldnt get anything for a couple months anyway. Maybe i'll find a better deal once i'm closer to the date..
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Old Yesterday, 10:54 PM   #1591
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Damm, I'm paying $350/m - so you're getting screwed.
0 down _loan_ for 2017 S manual. 72 months. 3.9 apr. $20.3k +tax, etc
Agreed, I'm paying $440/m with 0 down loan. 2017 Autobahn manual w/ DCC, adaptive radar, etc. They threw in monster mats, splash guards, cargo blocks and wheel locks also. It was December of 2016 when i purchased my car.

72 months @ 1.9 % apr. If i remember correctly it was $29,500 plus taxes and registration for a car that MSRP'd around $36k. I broke even on my trade.

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Old Yesterday, 11:32 PM   #1592
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Agreed, I'm paying $440/m with 0 down loan. 2017 Autobahn manual w/ DCC, adaptive radar, etc. They threw in monster mats, splash guards, cargo blocks and wheel locks also. It was December of 2016 when i purchased my car.

72 months @ 1.9 % apr. If i remember correctly it was $29,500 plus taxes and registration for a car that MSRP'd around $36k. I broke even on my trade.

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Where did you get 1.9 APR for 72 months?
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