I've spent the 14 years driving primarily Evos (Five different ones), but also had a mk6 GTI and a 335i during that time as well. All of those cars had one thing in common that this one does not: They were manual transmission. I opted for the DSG this time around, because my prior experience with stock VW clutches was an unhappy one, and the DSG has substantially higher performance potential.
I'm a dork with a mk7 only Golf garage now, we got my wife a GTI DSG SE back in March. I started a thread here, but got lazy too maintain it when Photobucket screwed the world over and began preventing external site viewing of images this past spring.
I've had my R for four weeks today, and at this point, it's still stock.
That's probably a record for me, and I intend to fix the problem fairly soon.
The first thing I thought I would do is compare my R to my wife's stage 1 GTI, which has a Cobb AP with a tune from Jon at 5150. I've known Jon for years from Evom, and wanted to go that way because of the quality of his work as well as the ability for custom tuning, which VW platforms have sorely lacked for years.
Right now, the wife's mk7 GTI would easily dust the R in comparative acceleration. I'm waiting for Cobb support for the R, as I went down the canned tune road in my mk6 GTI, and don't care to do that again.
GTI advantages:
-Price: (This is HUGE. Granted, if you option it up to Autobahn levels, the disparity isn't as much, but SE vs. R real world cost is about $11k difference. That's a lot of coin. I realize the big discounts on the GTI are because of cost of a car from Mexico vs. Germany, but it still hurts the wallet.
-PP limited slip: The PP single handedly crushes the mk6. The R brakes are great, but the real magic is that limited slip. I know it's some Haldex diff and not a true helical diff, but it effect on FWD in corners is utterly transformative.
-Weight: Here's the biggest compliment I can give the GTI. It feels like a proper flingy and feisty sport compact, whereas the R feels more like a Grand Tourer. 200 pounds is a lot of weight!
R advantages:
-AWD: Front tire fire sucks, and when we are regularly increasing these cars to 400hp and beyond, FWD becomes a serious detriment. This relegates the GTI to a constant exercise in a traction management for performance driving at best, and a highway roll race machine that has to start in third gear at worst.
-Gearing: In both manual and DSG forms, the R has substantially shorter and more performance oriented gearing.
-Packaging: Beefed up engine internals, IS38 already there, slightly larger intercooler, adjustable suspension, sexy Pretorias stock.
I'm sure there's a couple other differences I'm not thinking of offhand, I'll update later when I remember.
Only a month in, I have a rough idea of what I want to do with this car, but I'm sure it will change. Here's the list:
-5150 custom tuned AP when available
-DSG tune, hopefully Cobb will release this soon as well
-CTS turbo inlet pipe
-Factory location intercooler (Wagner or AMS leading candidates at the moment)
-AWE or Neuspeed code free downpipe
-Vorshlag camber plates (turn in SUCKS on these cars)
-Adjustable rear swaybar
-245w Michelin pilot PS4S if I can fit them without rubbing, otherwise stock size
-Wavetrac (this will probably be the last thing I do and way down the line)
-Maybe an intake. The X34 looks pretty cool, as does the APR intake.
The handling mojo in this platform is sorely lacking coming out of an Evo. I don't need to lower the car or do anything crazy, just some seasoning to get it where it should be. Dialing in another degree and a half of negative camber, a rear bar, and an front limited slip diff will certainly do the trick.
Here's a pic of the car in the garage. While I love the Lapiz Blue, it's clear that this will be the hardest color ever to take care of. It's easily as bad as a black car with showing swirls and scratches.
Thanks for clicking!
I'm a dork with a mk7 only Golf garage now, we got my wife a GTI DSG SE back in March. I started a thread here, but got lazy too maintain it when Photobucket screwed the world over and began preventing external site viewing of images this past spring.
I've had my R for four weeks today, and at this point, it's still stock.
That's probably a record for me, and I intend to fix the problem fairly soon.
The first thing I thought I would do is compare my R to my wife's stage 1 GTI, which has a Cobb AP with a tune from Jon at 5150. I've known Jon for years from Evom, and wanted to go that way because of the quality of his work as well as the ability for custom tuning, which VW platforms have sorely lacked for years.
Right now, the wife's mk7 GTI would easily dust the R in comparative acceleration. I'm waiting for Cobb support for the R, as I went down the canned tune road in my mk6 GTI, and don't care to do that again.
GTI advantages:
-Price: (This is HUGE. Granted, if you option it up to Autobahn levels, the disparity isn't as much, but SE vs. R real world cost is about $11k difference. That's a lot of coin. I realize the big discounts on the GTI are because of cost of a car from Mexico vs. Germany, but it still hurts the wallet.
-PP limited slip: The PP single handedly crushes the mk6. The R brakes are great, but the real magic is that limited slip. I know it's some Haldex diff and not a true helical diff, but it effect on FWD in corners is utterly transformative.
-Weight: Here's the biggest compliment I can give the GTI. It feels like a proper flingy and feisty sport compact, whereas the R feels more like a Grand Tourer. 200 pounds is a lot of weight!
R advantages:
-AWD: Front tire fire sucks, and when we are regularly increasing these cars to 400hp and beyond, FWD becomes a serious detriment. This relegates the GTI to a constant exercise in a traction management for performance driving at best, and a highway roll race machine that has to start in third gear at worst.
-Gearing: In both manual and DSG forms, the R has substantially shorter and more performance oriented gearing.
-Packaging: Beefed up engine internals, IS38 already there, slightly larger intercooler, adjustable suspension, sexy Pretorias stock.
I'm sure there's a couple other differences I'm not thinking of offhand, I'll update later when I remember.
Only a month in, I have a rough idea of what I want to do with this car, but I'm sure it will change. Here's the list:
-5150 custom tuned AP when available
-DSG tune, hopefully Cobb will release this soon as well
-CTS turbo inlet pipe
-Factory location intercooler (Wagner or AMS leading candidates at the moment)
-AWE or Neuspeed code free downpipe
-Vorshlag camber plates (turn in SUCKS on these cars)
-Adjustable rear swaybar
-245w Michelin pilot PS4S if I can fit them without rubbing, otherwise stock size
-Wavetrac (this will probably be the last thing I do and way down the line)
-Maybe an intake. The X34 looks pretty cool, as does the APR intake.
The handling mojo in this platform is sorely lacking coming out of an Evo. I don't need to lower the car or do anything crazy, just some seasoning to get it where it should be. Dialing in another degree and a half of negative camber, a rear bar, and an front limited slip diff will certainly do the trick.
Here's a pic of the car in the garage. While I love the Lapiz Blue, it's clear that this will be the hardest color ever to take care of. It's easily as bad as a black car with showing swirls and scratches.
Thanks for clicking!