Had the NPM for about a year now and have liked it with no issues on 91. Friend doesn't want his AP and am getting a little bored so was wondering if it's even worth doing a stage 2 ots flash for 91. I'm not seeing much on NPM vs Cobb AP in my brief research. I know the appeal to the appeal is custom tuneability. And of course Cobb is tried and true platform. So any insight would be nice. Thanks in advance. I have intake and tbe but no ic.
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Worth going from NPM to Cobb AP?
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Deviation01
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Yes!
Diggs24
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Just so you know it is a flash tune. provided you understand the warranty implications, then yes go for it.
Hexxum001
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Yes. I am also in California and previously had the NPM also. It worked perfectly fine for me also and it was a lot of fun. BUT, there is just so much more that you can do with the Cobb AP and the difference in power from the NPM to a tune is like night and day. It is absolutely worth it, IMO. The only drawback is the potential loss of your warranty. But that's a risk that you take if you decide that you want to tune.
Oldschoolmk7
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I have had my NPM for 6k miles no issues. The biggest thing I see is your 6 speed manual. Be prepared for an extra 1200-2000 grand in clutch expense on top of your Cobb AP. In the end, is that potential loss of warranty and new clutch expense worth that extra 15/20 hp and maybe 30/35 foot pounds to YOU? Have you tried running high octane on the plus 7 yet?
teemmy
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I had the NPM and I went to the JB1 before I finally landed the Cobb (the jump from the NPM to JB1 was totally worth it). If you're worried about warranty, I would look for a used JB4. The OTS maps from Cobb aren't that great and were comparable to the JB1, but the MAP stage 1 and 2 maps completely changed the car for me. If you want to go stage 2 on the Cobb with reliable power, you may need to consider upgrading your IC as well.
Also + 1 on the clutch. I had to upgrade my clutch when I went stage 2 on the JB1.
Also + 1 on the clutch. I had to upgrade my clutch when I went stage 2 on the JB1.
teemmy
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If clutch and warranty isn't an issue I'd go with the Cobb and try the MAP stage 1 or 2 maps. If you don't like it, then you can always resell the Cobb!
wordsthatiwrote
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So if a control arm breaks and you're under warranty, they wont warrant the repair?
TwinDad
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Definitely will be an upgrade. If you are worried about warranty though, get a JB4. You can make just as much power as the Cobb and adjust it yourself to be clutch friendly. You can also resell it like the Cobb. Otherwise the Cobb will be a definite improvement over the NPM.
Jovian
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Yes absolutely worth it.
Im another that went the Freektune route and have been very pleased. To give you an idea of the e-tune process with Freek check out my log on the process. https://www.carworklog.com/2017/03/22/cobb-accessport-custom-tuning-process-with-freektune/
Im another that went the Freektune route and have been very pleased. To give you an idea of the e-tune process with Freek check out my log on the process. https://www.carworklog.com/2017/03/22/cobb-accessport-custom-tuning-process-with-freektune/
Oldschoolmk7
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No doubt against a Etune/Protune. But, a stage 1 OTS is where I was qualifying my statement. A jb1 dp car on 6.3 psi and e35 made 303/367. That is well within range I gave out.