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Brake Pads/Rotors for PP

Location
St. Olaf
Let's have a look at Clubsport S part numbers:



front brake pads:


5Q0 698 151 G - 226 €/set


front brake rotors (two-piece w/alu hat):


5Q0 615 301 C - 211 € each


rear brake pads:


5G0 698 451 - 226 €/set



While the regular GTI Clubsport shares the very most parts with the
GTI Performance, the low-sample Clubsport S
comes with the above
listed dedicated hardware for an improved performance on track. Keep
in mind, these are GTI Clubsport S parts, not just GTI Clubsport parts.

VW claimed they ran the Nurburgring record lap with a stock Clubsport
S model. If that's true, these are the record-braking pads and rotors.
From theory these brake pads should provide increased performance
while still daily driveable. They're certainly no hardcore track-only
parts like Pagid RS29 or Endless NA35 etc., which would annoy you
with squeal.

Unfortunately, the rear pads don't fit NA market GTI Performance, as
ROW/Euro Golfs use to come with an eletromechanical parking brake
thus different rear calipers and pad shape.
They do fit all Golf R though, as well as ROW/Euro GTI Performance
and GTI Clubsport. Anyways, these parts are likely hard to obtain in
the US and Canada.
Contrarily, the front brakes are the same on both NA and ROW/Euro
versions on all GTI Performance, GTI Clubsport and R (despite color).

The latter means, that the front brake pads will fit on any of these
performance Golfs equipped with the bigger 340 mm brakes. If those
rotors will fit as well? I depends on the wheels bearings I guess. The
Clubsport S uses Audi TT bearings (8S part number) and I cannot
guarantee these wheel bearings are the same physical dimensions as
the GTI/R ones. Different bearing width may make need for different
rotor hat height/offset. So someone would need to try the rotors first
or if required
as well use TT bearings.

Hope you get what I'm talking about. ;)

More part numbers:

http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?p=308803#post308803
 

drrck

Go Kart Champion
Location
Zeeland, MI, USA

normcaldwell

Go Kart Newbie
Location
Denver, Colorado
Any more feedback on the DS2500 for daily driving? I'm replacing rotors/pads and would love to have an option other than EBC Yellow or Stock for my PP. I do 3 HDPEs each spring/summer.

I've had the DS2500 front and rear for about 1,000 miles. 2 track days as well. These have noticeably more torque than stock or EBC Yellows. It also looks like they'll last longer than the Yellows did.

Having run them through a couple of track day heat cycles, I now get what I'd call minor squeal during street driving when I use light brake pedal pressure (typical of any track oriented pad I've experienced in the past). There's more brake dust than stock, but the minor squeal and dust is o.k. with me given how well they've done on track. No fade, consistent stopping performance.
 

Quebster

Autocross Newbie
Location
Dallas, Tx
I was planning on getting a daily pad and having a separate race pad... only because when I bought my PP brakes off a friend, he gave me some extra pads with "better compound" for racing as well. And I want my daily pads to have minimal dust.

Is this feasible/practical? I never see anyone taking about having different pads for track days vs their daily pads.


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sandmangti

Autocross Newbie
I am not ready for new PP discs yet but like to look ahead.
I would like to try a two piece disc for no other reason than to lower weight. I have not tracked car yet so car is DD.
If I did mods based on needs I would still be stock.

I have seen the type ECS sells and recently found Girodisc.
Wondered if the guys who have been around longer know good or bad about them? From the $800 per set price I can gauge the quality.
If you also know other good two piece options please share and post pics.
Thanks.

Wonder if they have GTI red for MK7.
Edit: Yes they can do red. $100 more for the set. Special order.






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golfdave

Autocross Champion
Location
Scotland (U.K.)
Car(s)
Mk7 Golf GT Estate
I am not ready for new PP discs yet but like to look ahead.
I would like to try a two piece disc for no other reason than to lower weight. I have not tracked car yet so car is DD.
If I did mods based on needs I would still be stock.

I have seen the type ECS sells and recently found Girodisc.
Wondered if the guys who have been around longer know good or bad about them? From the $800 per set price I can gauge the quality.
If you also know other good two piece options please share and post pics.
Thanks.

Wonder if they have GTI red for MK7.






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For a start they have sided directional internal vanes...

the CS two piece discs are not as both sides are from the same "blank" so one side sucking when it should be blowing..which causes over heating on light track usage...VW driver mag article in UK last month on this.....VW messing up again...
 

replicate

Go Kart Newbie
Location
Downunder
For a start they have sided directional internal vanes...

the CS two piece discs are not as both sides are from the same "blank" so one side sucking when it should be blowing..which causes over heating on light track usage...VW driver mag article in UK last month on this.....VW messing up again...

Any links to that article online? As this is literally the only reference I can find online with regards to heat issue and CSS discs. I’d like to know more as my doubting mind asks the question. How does the car do sub 7 mins on the ring with overheating brakes? They would have been pushing the car beyond the limits on 99.9% of the individuals on the forum.
 

B95zP

Ready to race!
Location
AZ
It's a bummer there aren't many 2 piece options out there. Emanuele Designs did for a bit, but I Think they've since stopped production. Neuspeed teased one awhile back, still waiting for details.
 

sandmangti

Autocross Newbie
It's a bummer there aren't many 2 piece options out there. Emanuele Designs did for a bit, but I Think they've since stopped production. Neuspeed teased one awhile back, still waiting for details.



ECS Tuning list a few
Girodisc.
Stop Tech
APR.
There are options.

Just found these.

https://www.racingbrake.com/Two-Piece-Rotor-Open-Slot-for-VW-MK7-Golf-R-p/2556.htm



Tarox

http://www.tarox.co.uk/product/fron...swagen-golf-mk7-gti-performance-pack-bespoke/



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https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-...lubsport-s-front-brake-discs-pair-5q0615301c/

 
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ecsta

Go Kart Newbie
Location
Toronto
Car(s)
2017 R
So many options..

Is there a common recommendation for OEM sizing? I love the OEM brakes just want something with a bit nicer looks (strictly street driving).
 

sandmangti

Autocross Newbie
So many options..

Is there a common recommendation for OEM sizing? I love the OEM brakes just want something with a bit nicer looks (strictly street driving).



OEM PP or OEM base brake disc?
Most I showed are PP.
Same vendors sell non PP discs also.
Some drilled, some slots, some painted silver and some painted black. Suggest you start at ECS Tuning. Look and see what you like.



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B95zP

Ready to race!
Location
AZ

Nice finds....

RB - Price is fair, and a 6lbs weight savings is awesome. Pending further research a solid contender.
Tarox - Not sure I want to drop a grand on rotors.
CSS OE - Pass, think it was just a few posts up where there were concerns of the vanes being non-directional. Also I'd look for something with a bot more weight savings.
ECS - Don't like cross-drilled.
APR - Know they make a BBK, wasn't aware they made OE PP size rotors too.




I'd pass on these, don't appear to be 2 piece.
 
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