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Mk72015 said:
http://www.racingline-performance.com/oem-stage-3

This would be something that im really interested in
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So you want a TTE turbo then, because I'm 99% sure that's what that is. From OPs post, you can see that the TTE525 gives similar "disappointing" results hahaha.

They also claim that "by retaining the stock IHI housing lag is virtually non-existent". BS marketing right there. You can't nearly double a turbo cars output and not increase the turbine sizing, and in turn increase lag. I'd bet that their turbo is spec'd a lot like a TTE525, which spools just like the GTX30 in the dyno in the OP. Nearly 1500 rpms later than stock. Will you notice this driving? Sure. Will it be a problem for drivability? Depends on who you are.
 
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Also, so we can stop looking at a low res phone screen shot of the dyno:

 
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The curves on both the TTE525 and Boss600 would be pretty disappointing in a daily driver, full boost at 4500rpm is no fun. Additionally the IS38 curve looks to be a bit low on torque, typically they show 20-30ft/lbs more than hp. Though if its running an ethanol blend they might be limiting boost to keep the turbo temperatures in check.

Thanks for sharing!
 
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flipflp said:
100%, the IS38 is a great middle ground for usable power, low end, quick spool, etc. It's still very "streetable" even at it's wildest.

Comparing trap speeds from a GTI to an R won't look favorable for R's, but the 1/4 mile times will. Even the fastest (stage3) R's out there are only trapping in the low 120s, but that's with a high 10, low 11 second 1/4. I think one guy in the UK is leading the way and aiming for the 9s, currently mid10s.
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I think GIAC had an R on stock turbo trapping in the 120s
 
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limited_explorer said:
And the is38 blow i ran 115 with the um tune with 94 pump fuel but the new tune is better for the turbo[}

Im not sure what I would be trapping now, I trapped a 114mph Stage 1,5 93 oct.

Since then I've added

USP downpipe
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BMS water meth
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Mk72015 said:
Seems a lil low for all them bolt ons?
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Compared to what, an IS38'd GTI? Can't compare trap speeds, the gear ratios are all different and affect that more than power output. 115mph trap for an R is right in line with a full bolt on Stage1+ car.

See here:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...roved-MK7-R-Drag-Race-Ladder&highlight=ladder

And I've seen higher trap speeds with the IS38 on the R, sure, but those were prep'd and likely way over stressed turbo situations. I think in the thread above the fastest timed car on a maxed out IS38 R trapped 120mph, only a MPH lower than the same cars TTE525R run, but the IS38 was pushing 32psi and the car setup was very aggressive.
 
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flipflp said:
Compared to what, an IS38'd GTI? Can't compare trap speeds, the gear ratios are all different and affect that more than power output. 115mph trap for an R is right in line with a full bolt on Stage1+ car.

Well i still went 11.9 113, and 12.0 114 on just Eurodyne stage 1.5. not a single other bolt on.

Now im full bolt and im gonna see what i can trap
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Mk72015 said:
Well i still went 11.9 113, and 12.0 114 on just Eurodyne stage 1.5. not a single other bolt on.

Now im full bolt and im gonna see what i can trap
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Since you're actually in the thread I posted, you can see there are some variations for trap speeds. Just look at the tippy top of the 11s where you sit:

14.) 11.959 @ 111.54 MPH / 1.759 / MK 7 R / EA888 / Stock Turbo / DSG / 93 / 3340 / Stock OEM / APR Stage 2 Medium Torque 93 With DSG Tune / 630 Feet Elevation / 13E7

15.) 11.962@114.62 / 1.778 / MK7 R/ EA888 / Stock Turbo / DSG / 93 OCT / Stock Weight / Stock OEM Wheels & Tires / APR Stage 1/ Ken Newberry (2015 Golf R)

16.) 11.992 @ 112.84 / 1.758 / 2015 MK7 R / EA888 / Stock Turbo / DSG / 93 OCT with E25 mix / Stock+155 / 19'' Yokohama S-drives / APR Stage 2 High TQ / mkIIISC

17.) 11.995 @ 114.09/ 1.796 / Mk7 R / EA888 / stock turbo / DSG / 93 / approx. 3580 / Michelin PSS 235-40-18 / APR stage 2 high torque ECU+TCU / 119 ft / tzoo

18.) 11.995@113.25 / 1.762 / Mk7 R / EA888 / stock turbo / DSG / 93 / stock wheels and tires / APR stage 2 medium torque ECU+TCU / 650ft / CrunkGoat

19.) 11.996 @ 113.43 MPH / 1.723 60' / Mk7 R / EA888 / IS38 / DSG /93 octane / 3420bs / All seasons / Euro Dyne Stage 1.5 / 65 feet elevation / Mk72015


Trap speeds are a good measure of out right power, and for some cars it'll show where you are weak, usually off the line due to traction. When you have an AWD car with launch control and good tires, it's more of a measure of your overall setup (e.g. tire size, pressure, vehicle weight, redline, shift points, wind speeds/directions).

When you can nail a 1.7 60' consistently, you 1/4 times are going to be consistent, but your trap might float a bit.
 
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There i am at the bottom haha
 
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